Re: Update and move of codimd

Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de> Wed, 11 August 2021 16:18 UTC

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Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2021 18:18:24 +0200
From: Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de>
To: Greg Wood <ghwood@ietf.org>
Cc: Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net>, Working Chairs <wgchairs@ietf.org>, Robert Sparks <rjsparks@nostrum.com>
Subject: Re: Update and move of codimd
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I would like to see a clear description of the expected rules of use:

e.g.:

Q: is everything put into notes.ietf.org deemed public ?
Q: If not deemed public, then what exactly is the deemed level of
   confidentiality ? "AD-hoc - if you do not share a page name, its kinda confidential ?"

Q: Would it be permissible for IETF to create a public list of all pages ?
Q: Wold it be permissible for IETF to make content older than some time (e.g.: 3 years) public ?

Q: Is there an expectation for pages to be archived ?

Q: If there is no expectation of archival of pages, how long
   will pages be guaranteed not to be changed/taken-down by IETF ?

Q: If pages are not deemed public, how then would use of this tool
   go along with the IETF note well ?

Aka: IMHO, all pages should be deemed public, there actually should be a
list/search across them, and that way archiving and IETF note well are not an issue.

Cheers
    Toerless

On Wed, Aug 11, 2021 at 09:32:30AM -0400, Greg Wood wrote:
> Hi Mark (and everyone),
> 
> I’m looking into what’s possible at the moment, but if there are specific attributes you think would make the “Intro” page more useful, please feel free to send suggestions directly to me.
> 
> -Greg
> 
> 
> > On 10, Aug2021, at 20:01, Jay Daley <jay@ietf.org> wrote:
> > 
> > Looping in Greg as the person responsible for adding IETF branding to new services.
> > 
> > I believe a custom /intro.md is supported so this is possible.
> > 
> > Jay
> > 
> >> On 11/08/2021, at 11:38 AM, Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net> wrote:
> >> 
> >> Nice!
> >> 
> >> Are we planning to update the front page to IETF-brand it?
> >> 
> >> 
> >>> On 11 Aug 2021, at 6:59 am, Robert Sparks <rjsparks@nostrum.com> wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> This is done.
> >>> 
> >>> The result is at notes.ietf.org.
> >>> 
> >>> RjS
> >>> 
> >>> On 8/6/21 6:19 PM, Mark Nottingham wrote:
> >>>> Just a suggestion - can we use a host name that reflects the function, rather than the product used?  Eg ‘pad.ietf.org’?
> >>>> 
> >>>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>> 
> >>>>> On 7 Aug 2021, at 5:40 am, Robert Sparks <rjsparks@nostrum.com> wrote:
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> FYI -
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Next Tuesday 10 Aug, around 2000 UTC, we will be moving where codimd.ietf.org is running, and moving to the latest version (which will reflect the rename of the project to Hedgedoc). Editing and reading notes during that time may be interrupted.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> RjS
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> 
> >> 
> >> --
> >> Mark Nottingham   https://www.mnot.net/
> >> 
> > 
> > -- 
> > Jay Daley
> > IETF Executive Director
> > jay@ietf.org
> > 

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