Re: PSA: Automatic Minutes Generation
Suresh Krishnan <suresh.krishnan@gmail.com> Tue, 04 November 2025 14:34 UTC
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Subject: Re: PSA: Automatic Minutes Generation
From: Suresh Krishnan <suresh.krishnan@gmail.com>
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Hi Rifaat, I think the intent is that the chairs will take this text as the input, make the necessary updates/changes and upload them into the official minutes. Regards Suresh > On Nov 4, 2025, at 9:17 AM, Rifaat Shekh-Yusef <rifaat.s.ietf@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi Ekr, > > This looks great! > Is there a way for the WG chairs to make updates/changes to these minutes? > > Regards, > Rifaat > > > On Mon, Nov 3, 2025 at 3:32 PM Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com> wrote: > Update: > I am generating live-ish minutes for IETF 124 at: > https://ietfminutes.org/minutes/ietf124/index.html > > It takes some time for Meetecho to produce the transcripts, so they're > not available right after the meeting, but as a reference point Monday > Session I is now available. > > -Ekr > > > On Sat, Oct 11, 2025 at 7:02 PM Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com> wrote: > Hi Chairs, > > Like many of you, I've long been unsatisfied with the situation around > IETF minute taking, in which we conscript someone into taking minutes, > thus preventing them from fully participating, and often with mediocre > results. > > In an attempt to partly address this situation, I've put together an > automatic minutes generator at (https://ietfminutes.org/) The site > takes as input the Meetecho transcript and produces AI-generated > minutes. I've gone back and made minutes through IETF 112 (November > 2021) and I plan to produce minutes for IETF 124 (Montreal) once > transcripts are available, shortly after the meeting. > > Hopefully others will find this useful. > > -Ekr > > P.S. I'm not a WG chair, so you should make sure to keep > me on CC if you want a response.
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