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Re: Weird messages from IETF/Google Mailservers (WG: PALS WG Adoption poll draft-schmutzer-pals-ple)

Paul Wouters <paul@nohats.ca> Thu, 01 June 2023 13:42 UTC

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Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2023 09:42:35 -0400
From: Paul Wouters <paul@nohats.ca>
To: Carsten Bormann <cabo@tzi.org>
cc: Robert Sparks <rjsparks@nostrum.com>, wgchairs@ietf.org
Subject: Re: Weird messages from IETF/Google Mailservers (WG: PALS WG Adoption poll draft-schmutzer-pals-ple)
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On Thu, 1 Jun 2023, Carsten Bormann wrote:

> For now, my workaround is to manually forward all mail that I'm sending and that is being rejected to the victim recipients.

I never send to the aliases anymore. I just look them up in datatracker
and copy/paste the expanded email addresses. It's annoying but at least
I won't get DMARC'ed in the face.

Paul

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