Re: problem with recent drafts on tools.ietf.org? {35440727}
Glen <glen@amsl.com> Thu, 04 March 2021 20:22 UTC
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Subject: Re: problem with recent drafts on tools.ietf.org? {35440727}
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On 3/4/2021 12:04, Alexa Morris wrote: >> On Mar 4, 2021, at 11:15 AM, Fred Baker <fredbaker.ietf@gmail.com> wrote: >> I think there was an announcement that Henrik was leaving, and I certainly knew that there was a conflict between him and DMS/Glen's work. > AMS’s IT team (Glen and Ryan) worked closely with Henrik for many years and were deeply saddened by his departure. They were not just professional colleagues and collaborators; they were friends. I just wanted to clarify that, since it appears that you had a different understanding. Since I was mentioned by name twice, I will take the opportunity to clarify one more thing, if I may: Under the paradigm designed by Russ Housley when he was Chair, the Tools Team (which included Henrik at the time, and is now led by Robert), does "Engineering" - software design, coding, code debugging, and overall oversight of Tools generally. In contrast, I and my team at AMS do "Operations" - we run the IETF production servers, a number of backup servers, and do our best to keep things alive and running well generally. That is a clearly defined and bright line which has worked well for us all these years. So a conflict wasn't really a realistic thing, because our roles were clearly defined. And unless there was conversation I was not aware of (possible, but I never got a hint of it), "conflict" was always the farthest thing from my relationship with Henrik. He and I worked closely on production-related things, our working relationship was always excellent and enjoyable, and I was completely blindsided by his departure. Any concepts to the contrary are, at least from my point of view, completely inaccurate. All that said, I never worked on the "tools.ietf.org" servers, I never had regular access to them and, apart from doing the occasional hard reset, I never was involved with them in any way. I think he had others in that role, but I was not ever a part of the "tools" inner circle. That was fine with me, since as he would say, "There is always more to do" and I am busy with my own work, which consists primarily of being the IETF's operator, and doing everything I can to support everyone behind the scenes. And for what it's worth, speaking personally for a moment, Henrik was one of the very few people who put up with what he called my "brashness" with both patience and tolerance. He knew that my tone was always unintentional, and he was never offended by it; instead, he took the time to educate me about it and help me try to be less "curt." I actually cried actual literal tears when I learned of his departure, and his absence still hurts my soul. Glen -- Glen Barney IT Director AMS (IETF Secretariat)
- Fwd: problem with recent drafts on tools.ietf.org… Lou Berger
- Re: Fwd: problem with recent drafts on tools.ietf… Paul Wouters
- Re: problem with recent drafts on tools.ietf.org?… Jay Daley
- Re: problem with recent drafts on tools.ietf.org?… Margaret Cullen
- Re: problem with recent drafts on tools.ietf.org?… Bernard Aboba
- Re: [irsg] problem with recent drafts on tools.ie… Carsten Bormann
- Re: problem with recent drafts on tools.ietf.org?… Bob Hinden
- Re: problem with recent drafts on tools.ietf.org?… Martin Duke
- Re: problem with recent drafts on tools.ietf.org?… Stewart Bryant
- Re: problem with recent drafts on tools.ietf.org?… Livingood, Jason
- Re: problem with recent drafts on tools.ietf.org?… Livingood, Jason
- Re: problem with recent drafts on tools.ietf.org?… Jay Daley
- Re: problem with recent drafts on tools.ietf.org?… Eliot Lear
- Re: problem with recent drafts on tools.ietf.org?… Fred Baker
- Calendar subscriptions (was Re: problem with rece… Robert Sparks
- Re: Calendar subscriptions (was Re: problem with … Fred Baker
- Re: problem with recent drafts on tools.ietf.org?… Alexa Morris
- Re: problem with recent drafts on tools.ietf.org?… Glen
- Re: problem with recent drafts on tools.ietf.org?… Luigi Iannone
- Re: problem with recent drafts on tools.ietf.org?… Stewart Bryant
- Re: [irsg] problem with recent drafts on tools.ie… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [irsg] problem with recent drafts on tools.ie… Robert Sparks
- Re: problem with recent drafts on tools.ietf.org?… Robert Sparks
- Re: problem with recent drafts on tools.ietf.org?… Leslie Daigle
- Re: problem with recent drafts on tools.ietf.org?… Robert Sparks
- Re: problem with recent drafts on tools.ietf.org?… Bob Hinden
- Re: [irsg] problem with recent drafts on tools.ie… Lars Eggert
- Re: problem with recent drafts on tools.ietf.org?… Leslie Daigle
- Re: problem with recent drafts on tools.ietf.org?… Henrik Levkowetz
- Re: problem with recent drafts on tools.ietf.org?… Stewart Bryant
- Re: problem with recent drafts on tools.ietf.org?… David Noveck
- Re: problem with recent drafts on tools.ietf.org?… Fred Baker
- Re: problem with recent drafts on tools.ietf.org?… Fred Baker
- Re: problem with recent drafts on tools.ietf.org?… Jay Daley