Re: [irsg] Closing the queue

Carsten Bormann <cabo@tzi.org> Fri, 30 July 2021 12:46 UTC

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Subject: Re: [irsg] Closing the queue
From: Carsten Bormann <cabo@tzi.org>
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On 2021-07-30, at 05:16, Bob Hinden <bob.hinden@gmail.com> wrote:
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> I agree this would helpful.   It will, of course, require the chair(s) to remember to turn the queue back on for the next presentation.

It is probably better not to “close the queue” (i.e., make the hands-up button inactive), but simply to change the color of the next hands-up entry that is made.  Rotate through 3-4 colors (yes, lightnesses, hatchings, …), and we should be safe.  If these were formal meetings, we’d need double-hands (point of order) as well…  and same topic/other topic...

(Ceterum censeo: And move the damn thing BELOW the current speaker.)

Grüße, Carsten