Re: WG meeting structure

Loa Andersson <loa@pi.nu> Fri, 17 May 2019 15:15 UTC

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Subject: Re: WG meeting structure
To: Benjamin Kaduk <kaduk@mit.edu>
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Ben,


On 2019-05-17 22:14, Benjamin Kaduk wrote:
> On Fri, May 17, 2019 at 08:37:49PM +0800, Loa Andersson wrote:
>> All,
>>
>> I agree with most of what what Fred says, drawing on experience from
>> other wg's.
>>
>> I'm a bit nervous when this type discussions pops up. As long they are
>> discussions on "good ideas we tried, and the results we had", I think it
>> is fine.
>>
>> When they slide away to instruct wg chairs what they should do, I'm
>> very concerned.
>>
>> I'm convinced that when it comes to IETF wg's we don't have and will
>> never have a seating arrangement that fit all wg's, nor fit a single
>> working group for all of its life time.
>>
>> If there are experiments necessary, let the wg chairs do the experiments
>> and the evaluation of the experiments.
> 
> There's a bit of a threshold problem, in that the logistics of the chair
> setup means we need some critical mass of WGs to agree to run the same
> experiment in the same meeting cycle in order for any of them to happen.
> But that shouldn't have to take much else away from the WG chairs' control
> over how to run the WG.

So you are saying that if I would like to run the table setup for a MPLS
meeting as a U, V or A shape, you are saying that you would stop me just
because there are no other groups that are doing the same thing?

/Loa

> 
> -Ben
> 

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