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Paul Kyzivat <pkyzivat@alum.mit.edu> Wed, 19 August 2020 14:07 UTC

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Subject: Re: affiliation
To: David Noveck <davenoveck@gmail.com>
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From: Paul Kyzivat <pkyzivat@alum.mit.edu>
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Fred, David and Warren,

You all made more or less the same point. I agree that knowing 
affiliation can be illuminating. And so I agree it is good to have a 
mechanism to discover it.

I commented because in this discussion it seemed like it might be 
getting undue attention. But maybe it was just me. See below for one 
more point.

On 8/18/20 4:43 PM, David Noveck wrote:
> 
> On Tue, Aug 18, 2020, 12:10 PM Paul Kyzivat <paul.kyzivat@comcast.net 

>     I thought a fundamental feature of the IETF is that people participate
>     as individuals rather than as representatives of some enterprise or
>     organization. 
>  
> True, but people are paid to attend by companies they work for and that 
> fact is not irrelevant to many people.
> 
>     So why should affiliation be highlighted.
>  
> It should be up to the individual.  I don't highlight it.  It is on my 
> badge. But I don't put it on slides but it is on RFCs I'm involved with.
>  
>     (I cringe when I hear someone say they are speaking for XYZ.)
>  
> Unless you're the CEO, you really can't.

But I have often heard it, stated in much the same way it would be in a 
3GPP meeting. Maybe it is just habit for some people. But still 
inappropriate.

	Thanks,	
	Paul

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