Re: System generated chat messages during WG sessions

[Toerless Eckert <[e-mail]>]

On Thu, Sep 05, 2024 at 02:28:59PM -0400, Andrew G. Malis wrote:
> Toerless,
> 
> There are people that like to read the chat, or incorporate the chat into
> the minutes, without having to watch the entire video.

That's fine. Nothing i proposed argues against it. I just don't want the chat to be cluttered
with information about the actual primary meeting track - especially because i do not want
to kill off asynchronous chat discuss that's explicitly NOT in-sync with th primary WG
track. 

Cheers
    Toerless

> Cheers,
> Andy
> 
> 
> On Thu, Sep 5, 2024 at 1:58 PM Toerless Eckert <[e-mail]> wrote:
> 
> > My 22cents:
> >
> > I would not like for the chat to be scattered by this metadata because we
> > should already
> > have an actual metadata stream in the videos: the CC (close caption
> > track). AFAIK, all
> > IETF recordings on youtube have it. Seemingly some are done manual/better,
> > most are
> > automatic (suck rocks - especially with non native speakers).
> >
> > Anyhow: What the IETF tooling team seemingly does not do right is to
> > enable the youtube
> > transcription feature from this CC track. When i go to most other
> > (non-IETF) videos
> > with CC, then i can click on "Show Transcript" at the bottom of the
> > youtube description.
> > This will then pop up the transcript - and then you can scroll/search and
> > jump to specific
> > transcript points.
> >
> > Seems obvious to me, that we would want any section markers like
> > slides/presentations/speakers
> > on the microphone to be in this transcription track.
> >
> > Of course: If youtube allows multiple tracks, then it would be fine to
> > also include the
> > chat as a secondary caption track. But let's not consider it to be a
> > primary track
> > for the session recording.
> >
> > Cheers
> >     Toerless
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 05, 2024 at 12:42:37PM +0100, Jay Daley wrote:
> > > Starting a new thread on this.
> > >
> > > Meetecho have confirmed that having the system generate chat messages is
> > pretty straightforward so I want to ask what action points are the most
> > useful for such a message, assuming we don’t want too many such messages as
> > that will clutter the chat.
> > >
> > > So far we have:
> > >
> > > - When a new presentation is started so that it contextualises the chat
> > messages after that.
> > >
> > > The only other one I can see might be useful is:
> > >
> > > - When a poll is initiated and/or closed, perhaps with the result copied
> > to the chat.
> > >
> > > Yes/no? and any others?
> > >
> > > Jay
> > >
> > > --
> > > Jay Daley
> > > IETF Executive Director
> > > [e-mail]
> >
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> >

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