Re: Draft "Convince your boss" note for IETF participants

Greg Wood <ghwood@staff.ietf.org> Wed, 28 September 2022 16:30 UTC

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Subject: Re: Draft "Convince your boss" note for IETF participants
From: Greg Wood <ghwood@staff.ietf.org>
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Hi Leif,

> On 28, Sep2022, at 11:18, Leif Johansson <leifj@sunet.se> wrote:
> 
> On 2022-09-28 16:22, Greg Wood wrote:
>> Hello!
>> As an experiment, based on material some other technology conferences provide to (potential) participants, and at the suggestion received from an IETFer, we’ve created a draft “Convince Your Boss” note that might be used by someone seeking approval to attend an IETF meeting in-person:
>> https://notes.ietf.org/ietf-meeting-convince-your-boss
>> Any and all comments about whether this might be useful to you or participants in your groups, or suggestions about how it might be tuned to be more useful, would be most welcome — either on this list or directly to me.
>> More broadly, it would be useful to know whether there is any specific information or material that would make it easier for IETF participants to participate in the IETF—not just meetings, but also (for example) devoting time to work in the IETF. Again, I’m happy to receive suggestions directly or on the list.
>> Please let me know if I can provide more information or answer any questions.
> 
> Quick q - in which industry do you envision the hypothetical employee works? Vendor, operator, general tech industry?


The idea was to provide a general starting point which could be tailored so there isn’t a specific industry in mind. 

Do you have specific suggestions or thoughts about that approach? Should that be more explicit in a preamble or should there be different starting points or components for different segments?

Also, thank you very much to Bob and Toerless for the very helpful comments, which I’ll look to incorporate in the next few days.

Regards

-Greg

> 
> 	Cheers Leif
>