Re: Please comment on your use of trac

Tim Wicinski <tjw.ietf@gmail.com> Wed, 03 February 2021 19:15 UTC

Return-Path: <tjw.ietf@gmail.com>
X-Original-To: wgchairs@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: wgchairs@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E11503A1105 for <wgchairs@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 3 Feb 2021 11:15:33 -0800 (PST)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -2.097
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.097 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no
Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id fkUecuJPzNin for <wgchairs@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 3 Feb 2021 11:15:32 -0800 (PST)
Received: from mail-ot1-x32c.google.com (mail-ot1-x32c.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::32c]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 68A423A10D8 for <wgchairs@ietf.org>; Wed, 3 Feb 2021 11:15:32 -0800 (PST)
Received: by mail-ot1-x32c.google.com with SMTP id y11so981097otq.1 for <wgchairs@ietf.org>; Wed, 03 Feb 2021 11:15:32 -0800 (PST)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=UQEa0yn/7Rg4UVcHzLMDFi6R9h7j+QZKM5Rd/m2fwjc=; b=qAg+BxhcBX3pIeZJJsfkoQm0VIQG+UvnNHsrwwBAi9yd8XYYskOkoiOhdWF2kVmd/j er3x4j169bP1D7Bg3RaK/F6AUu9AzH+VQnRdF8fVF5XPkpl86x297kTKuyf3Qn7lBGTJ DTaOKUym9wG05QOzoso8juIN3skJiat2cKCOo8ON9jZPmwFH1Nk6lYDxbqZHQXLGOSAz 9GBZkoz35xXADxfKMq4NPdxtoS3ycGR8Ybd+Fqwz4cVR7rGlHD6OTQcHtzEvFLL+Nyu1 L9AoZVeIFDDCafb2KfermNcFzr5Bge24Nqp699FgfNTm+5H/sk/MywLjkcY+/Qunwg4m izUA==
X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=UQEa0yn/7Rg4UVcHzLMDFi6R9h7j+QZKM5Rd/m2fwjc=; b=DwNC7/qNJO+s5haRx7iVA5uBpLq7XyIQ+Xo8SBjbeo1FTBPX2XUlwmiUKqSc3ggpw1 J6OkB66RfsvSrc/D3XUsJjEf7EVjBe+HCzs+LJxVZtx+S3QQe3y3yWH7q4fKdcAUmwWb xF9EIVc84BfgPT8Qrpsuo2LF1O3/Zh09pg6LdiKW4XuiAlfFD+xADJKZsett6bhEUpOg 4YSnsoMDSdOmyJZESKVdpgyj0HI0zm44c/CnS+LbBApE+B4USuZvTpqrXt5V2R0c4Drh B4+dhIn4P1xTdjvqz8QSJsc7xI13UBHE3RkdpNbbKX0DwGBjibEDfWfZm/DJtsNtBph9 Xv1w==
X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531GlzGiXQVZKHH+SymzSroNUgr6bWqDju/4o/cZ3p3jsSlli03P mR5KDtlNRoMRkXgUz/Rq94dOgMpIPKwAl2HjqX8=
X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwSh6/TQgxQwz0Cd4+BHZ7wjAxotr7CaDl2lLSpJDDamxdAujjDWP7WKsEeVjD4ndHiqrRI6GmcetLQCJHGuMQ=
X-Received: by 2002:a05:6830:1254:: with SMTP id s20mr3103245otp.155.1612379731563; Wed, 03 Feb 2021 11:15:31 -0800 (PST)
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <a77623bc-bebb-3aa2-4cf7-d645e00dcd45@nostrum.com>
In-Reply-To: <a77623bc-bebb-3aa2-4cf7-d645e00dcd45@nostrum.com>
From: Tim Wicinski <tjw.ietf@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 03 Feb 2021 14:15:20 -0500
Message-ID: <CADyWQ+ERvd03T35zP9YNjXYJiAXec5khrnjDdU2PGRyqA+XNvw@mail.gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Please comment on your use of trac
To: Robert Sparks <rjsparks@nostrum.com>
Cc: Working Group Chairs <wgchairs@ietf.org>
Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000002499c305ba7369fe"
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/wgchairs/zVdE7VM7hIHw7Dj3mF75OOKTFEY>
X-BeenThere: wgchairs@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29
Precedence: list
List-Id: Working Group Chairs <wgchairs.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/wgchairs>, <mailto:wgchairs-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/wgchairs/>
List-Post: <mailto:wgchairs@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:wgchairs-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/wgchairs>, <mailto:wgchairs-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Feb 2021 19:15:39 -0000

We use trac in DMARC but only because I feel it's the 'standard'
I think I've said I would pay cash money(*) to make it go away.

tim

(*) - to be paid out of my wg chairs wealth fund of course.

On Wed, Feb 3, 2021 at 11:18 AM Robert Sparks <rjsparks@nostrum.com> wrote:

> We currently have instances of trac configured for each working group.
> Only some are being used.
>
> If your group is using trac, are you using anything essentially
> trac-specific that you find important?
>
> Would you be ok migrating (with help) to a different wiki system and a
> different issue tracking system?
>
> The trac project itself is lagging with Python development - stable
> still only runs on Python 2.7 and while there appears to be work towards
> Python 3, it is not yet functional, and is not progressing quickly. We
> are working around it by encapsulating it in docker instances running 2.7.
>
> I've had several people suggest we should stop supporting it, and I'd
> like to know if that would be a particular hardship for any group.
>
> RjS
>
>
>