Re: [Wish] Authentication for resource url
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Subject: Re: [Wish] Authentication for resource url
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>> To give an example of how this is done in production services: on Twitch, >> once you log in, you go into account management, click on the "Stream" >> tab, and copy a really long string of junk out of a field labeled "Primary >> Stream Key." You paste this into your broadcast client in a field usually >> named "Stream Key." Just to be clear: I think token auth is a good idea, and as a matter of fact Galene uses token auth for authentication to the TURN server. What I'm arguing for is a simple, interoperable user/password mechanism for the simple case, for when the infrastructure required to securely communicate the token to the client is not deemed necessary. My current opinion (likely to change as Sergio and Adam explain stuff to me further) can be summarised as: * HTTP basic: MUST implement in clients, MAY implement in servers; * token: SHOULD implement in clients, SHOULD implement in servers. This way, server authors are guaranteed to interoperate with all clients if they choose to implement HTTP Basic, and they can use the more secure token auth if they are willing to put it the work required to build the infrastructure required to communicate tokens to their chosen clients. This way, WISH is useful both for Millicast, whose business model relies on helping users deploy their high-quality broadcasting solutions, and for free servers such as Galene, who want to minimise the amount of hand-holding that they need to provide to their non-specialist users, even if that implies not using the most secure authentication techniques available. -- Juliusz
- [Wish] Authentication for resource url Sergio Garcia Murillo
- Re: [Wish] Authentication for resource url Lorenzo Miniero
- Re: [Wish] Authentication for resource url Juliusz Chroboczek
- Re: [Wish] Authentication for resource url Sergio Garcia Murillo
- Re: [Wish] Authentication for resource url Adam Roach
- Re: [Wish] Authentication for resource url Sergio Garcia Murillo
- Re: [Wish] Authentication for resource url Adam Roach
- Re: [Wish] Authentication for resource url Matt Ward
- Re: [Wish] Authentication for resource url Adam Roach
- Re: [Wish] Authentication for resource url Juliusz Chroboczek
- Re: [Wish] Authentication for resource url Sergio Garcia Murillo
- Re: [Wish] Authentication for resource url Matt Ward
- Re: [Wish] Authentication for resource url Sergio Garcia Murillo
- Re: [Wish] Authentication for resource url Matt Ward
- Re: [Wish] Authentication for resource url Sergio Garcia Murillo
- Re: [Wish] Authentication for resource url Matt Ward
- Re: [Wish] Authentication for resource url Cameron Elliott
- Re: [Wish] Authentication for resource url Juliusz Chroboczek
- Re: [Wish] Authentication for resource url Sergio Garcia Murillo
- Re: [Wish] Authentication for resource url Sergio Garcia Murillo
- Re: [Wish] Authentication for resource url Sergio Garcia Murillo
- Re: [Wish] Authentication for resource url Juliusz Chroboczek
- Re: [Wish] Authentication for resource url Sergio Garcia Murillo
- Re: [Wish] Authentication for resource url Juliusz Chroboczek
- Re: [Wish] Authentication for resource url Adam Roach
- Re: [Wish] Authentication for resource url Juliusz Chroboczek
- Re: [Wish] Authentication for resource url Juliusz Chroboczek
- Re: [Wish] Authentication for resource url Lorenzo Miniero
- Re: [Wish] Authentication for resource url Christer Holmberg
- Re: [Wish] Authentication for resource url Adam Roach
- Re: [Wish] Authentication for resource url Juliusz Chroboczek
- Re: [Wish] Authentication for resource url Juliusz Chroboczek
- Re: [Wish] Authentication for resource url Adam Roach
- Re: [Wish] Authentication for resource url Adam Roach
- Re: [Wish] Authentication for resource url Matt Ward
- Re: [Wish] Authentication for resource url Sergio Garcia Murillo
- Re: [Wish] Authentication for resource url Matt Ward
- Re: [Wish] Authentication for resource url Sergio Garcia Murillo
- Re: [Wish] Authentication for resource url Lorenzo Miniero
- Re: [Wish] Authentication for resource url Juliusz Chroboczek
- Re: [Wish] Authentication for resource url Spencer Dawkins at IETF