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Re: [Wish] Authentication for resource url

Lorenzo Miniero <lorenzo@meetecho.com> Thu, 16 September 2021 18:20 UTC

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Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2021 20:19:56 +0200
From: Lorenzo Miniero <lorenzo@meetecho.com>
To: Sergio Garcia Murillo <sergio.garcia.murillo@gmail.com>
Cc: Matt Ward <mattward@mux.com>, Adam Roach <adam@nostrum.com>, WISH List <wish@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [Wish] Authentication for resource url
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On Thu, 16 Sep 2021 20:10:57 +0200
Sergio Garcia Murillo <sergio.garcia.murillo@gmail.com> wrote:

> Because if not it won't be implemented by clients, and we won't be
> able to use it in our servers even if we want it
> 


+1

Lorenzo


> El jue., 16 sept. 2021 19:49, Matt Ward <mattward@mux.com> escribió:
> 
> > Why must it be mandated?
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 16, 2021 at 10:48 AM Sergio Garcia Murillo <  
> > sergio.garcia.murillo@gmail.com> wrote:  
> >  
> >> I think that the spec must mandate authentication to be supported
> >> on the client side and that its usage is optional. Meaning that
> >> all clients must implement it, but allow the token to not be set
> >> (and therefore the header not be sent).
> >>
> >> Best regards
> >> Sergio
> >>
> >> El jue, 16 sept 2021 a las 19:43, Matt Ward (<mattward@mux.com>)
> >> escribió:
> >>  
> >>> I would still reiterate that I strongly recommend that the spec
> >>> does not prohibit the lack of an Authentication header and
> >>> therefore in some way permits building an experience really close
> >>> to that of RTMP such that we do not have to retrain broadcasters.
> >>> I think keeping things close to RTMP will help this spec see
> >>> better adoption in the ecosystem. I really do want this spec to
> >>> succeed and I do believe that keeping the requirements as minimal
> >>> as possible will help speed up adoption.
> >>>
> >>> The question here I think should be, is WHIP as a spec actually
> >>> incomplete and not independently useful without a specification of
> >>> authentication? Can (and should) that be covered in optional
> >>> extensions of the base spec that makes no mention of
> >>> authentication?
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Sep 15, 2021 at 12:11 PM Adam Roach <adam@nostrum.com>
> >>> wrote: 
> >>>> On 9/15/21 13:36, Juliusz Chroboczek wrote:  
> >>>> > if we expect WHIP to run in cleartext  
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> We can't. Our charter doesn't let us define WHIP over HTTP.
> >>>> We're only allowed to define WHIP over HTTPS.
> >>>>
> >>>> /a
> >>>>
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