IETF Logo Mail Archive

Re: [Wish] WHIP enhancements

Adam Roach <adam@nostrum.com> Wed, 24 February 2021 23:44 UTC

Return-Path: <adam@nostrum.com>
X-Original-To: wish@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: wish@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04BB63A1D94 for <wish@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 24 Feb 2021 15:44:31 -0800 (PST)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -2.08
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.08 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, NICE_REPLY_A=-0.001, T_SPF_HELO_PERMERROR=0.01, T_SPF_PERMERROR=0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no
Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=nostrum.com
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id sk72yqATkw2D for <wish@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 24 Feb 2021 15:44:29 -0800 (PST)
Received: from nostrum.com (raven-v6.nostrum.com [IPv6:2001:470:d:1130::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A558B3A1D93 for <wish@ietf.org>; Wed, 24 Feb 2021 15:44:29 -0800 (PST)
Received: from Zephyrus.local (cpe-70-122-148-25.tx.res.rr.com [70.122.148.25]) (authenticated bits=0) by nostrum.com (8.16.1/8.16.1) with ESMTPSA id 11ONiOaL057608 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 24 Feb 2021 17:44:27 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from adam@nostrum.com)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=nostrum.com; s=default; t=1614210268; bh=Yj40MQdXsTQZK7KCK1sJ+s/J44Ur+zY7CNSsUfhnwn4=; h=Subject:From:To:Cc:References:Date:In-Reply-To; b=ZvEE9ehahh71b9RmDIqax7OrayJZWVMAVuRsOdHs0gQmlzooObgIOaiFXM3cZB+ZS PfjIseskrlgdzXg3tIoZSd4AegGlx2DWIjobmIj1aSilxfuVlgr2ACuB2LOvVECL21 JveBeKUcxrCVetZcA3vzDHhLTNyrDt4zv/LT6oXo=
X-Authentication-Warning: raven.nostrum.com: Host cpe-70-122-148-25.tx.res.rr.com [70.122.148.25] claimed to be Zephyrus.local
From: Adam Roach <adam@nostrum.com>
To: Sergio Garcia Murillo <sergio.garcia.murillo@gmail.com>
Cc: "wish@ietf.org" <wish@ietf.org>
References: <92fd1a3f-06a3-3197-dde0-18270b62410c@nostrum.com> <CA+ag07Y0pZJ5YHtin1Y6X0bOGkYqGOanCaNiM42VFYwXYB6iSQ@mail.gmail.com> <a6184cd1-361d-f9aa-acd4-7586c6ed9006@nostrum.com>
Message-ID: <66abb4e2-a908-00fe-b8b7-16f128853124@nostrum.com>
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2021 17:44:18 -0600
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.15; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.11.0
MIME-Version: 1.0
In-Reply-To: <a6184cd1-361d-f9aa-acd4-7586c6ed9006@nostrum.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Content-Language: en-US
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/wish/6oKnnU-o6aE9lQGjR07tft-g9_k>
Subject: Re: [Wish] WHIP enhancements
X-BeenThere: wish@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29
Precedence: list
List-Id: WebRTC Ingest Signaling over HTTPS <wish.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/wish>, <mailto:wish-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/wish/>
List-Post: <mailto:wish@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:wish-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/wish>, <mailto:wish-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2021 23:44:31 -0000

On 2/24/21 17:25, Adam Roach wrote:
> I'm seriously concerned about the future and the viability of a 
> protocol that has no extension points. Can we work to find common 
> ground on those two points? 


I don't want to over-do the point, but after I sent this, I was reminded 
that the need for extensibility is something that Jonathan Lennox also 
highlighted during the WHIP discussion at DISPATCH 109, so I suspect 
it's something that's going to be conspicuously absent if we don't 
address it.

/a

v2.8.7 | Report a Bug | By Email