Re: [Wish] Review of normative language in WHIP draft

Juliusz Chroboczek <jch@irif.fr> Wed, 01 June 2022 15:33 UTC

Return-Path: <jch@irif.fr>
X-Original-To: wish@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: wish@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27907C14F74F for <wish@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 1 Jun 2022 08:33:12 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -2.109
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.109 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no
Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=irif.fr
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([50.223.129.194]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OPBw4ROAi3uF for <wish@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 1 Jun 2022 08:33:08 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from korolev.univ-paris7.fr (korolev.univ-paris7.fr [IPv6:2001:660:3301:8000::1:2]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5A592C14F74B for <wish@ietf.org>; Wed, 1 Jun 2022 08:33:06 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr (mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr [81.194.30.253]) by korolev.univ-paris7.fr (8.14.4/8.14.4/relay1/82085) with ESMTP id 251FX1gw000972; Wed, 1 Jun 2022 17:33:01 +0200
Received: from mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1099E6CB7; Wed, 1 Jun 2022 17:33:01 +0200 (CEST)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=irif.fr; h= content-type:content-type:mime-version:user-agent:references :in-reply-to:subject:subject:from:from:message-id:date:date :received:received; s=dkim-irif; t=1654097579; x=1654961580; bh= QcU6SkDYjT019LrXH8NeN8cx4M2WrxeabW47L/1agbk=; b=dPlBwa6C37vVlC/j /+u3k6XF/sGJzzdvPlff0WMjGYVIPyFPvjzyWAqWFwHMMga20wKzswhWoPWBH9Op 7qADJzPQ6Gwoopq9SVLOeBrE4Aco4Lf0195ykpZAQdQiYWAVCj9jdpbXsE8al1+5 rdQ5K7oMi0lJkV3mx7e/dMySrkS661ZId8HHZ+rbC9XD8fZB2Lybexqz1ljV7IiS m7uZStFRIzciifJlBDsoRtpsQXhd9kOHmSN4UaDWbhWxwrgBjRJfMFxaAV16EQRZ hUdHPlLJtr+lSoWUgGTmfyVcRNVf/6VYpZySMJvyI9ZOxobjv2P83TbhhtT+QMJK ipn4rA==
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at math.univ-paris-diderot.fr
Received: from mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr ([127.0.0.1]) by mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr (mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10023) with ESMTP id sxOsde9tpFOe; Wed, 1 Jun 2022 17:32:59 +0200 (CEST)
Received: from pirx.irif.fr (unknown [78.194.40.74]) (Authenticated sender: jch) by mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3517EE6CB1; Wed, 1 Jun 2022 17:32:58 +0200 (CEST)
Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2022 17:32:58 +0200
Message-ID: <87wne0flg5.wl-jch@irif.fr>
From: Juliusz Chroboczek <jch@irif.fr>
To: Sean Turner <sean@sn3rd.com>
Cc: Sergio Garcia Murillo <sergio.garcia.murillo@gmail.com>, WISH List <wish@ietf.org>
In-Reply-To: <242C387B-6C2B-459E-B12C-471C00A5B272@sn3rd.com>
References: <CA+ag07ZZ2d=+MowReFGfb-RLhCDc4b+2RistAeDQrjfd+091HQ@mail.gmail.com> <87r1524su2.wl-jch@irif.fr> <CA+ag07agOBjZaQ5s6evrjOri64+txA36OtKexRPJaWadCjm5CA@mail.gmail.com> <242C387B-6C2B-459E-B12C-471C00A5B272@sn3rd.com>
User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.15.9 (Almost Unreal) Emacs/27.1 Mule/6.0
MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI-EPG 1.14.7 - "Harue")
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (korolev.univ-paris7.fr [194.254.61.138]); Wed, 01 Jun 2022 17:33:01 +0200 (CEST)
X-Miltered: at korolev with ID 629786AD.002 by Joe's j-chkmail (http : // j-chkmail dot ensmp dot fr)!
X-j-chkmail-Enveloppe: 629786AD.002 from mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr/mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr/null/mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr/<jch@irif.fr>
X-j-chkmail-Score: MSGID : 629786AD.002 on korolev.univ-paris7.fr : j-chkmail score : . : R=. U=. O=. B=0.000 -> S=0.000
X-j-chkmail-Status: Ham
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/wish/BK16Qp8lg0D8QydfS3TOXdIBq7c>
Subject: Re: [Wish] Review of normative language in WHIP draft
X-BeenThere: wish@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34
Precedence: list
List-Id: WebRTC Ingest Signaling over HTTPS <wish.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/wish>, <mailto:wish-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/wish/>
List-Post: <mailto:wish@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:wish-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/wish>, <mailto:wish-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2022 15:33:12 -0000

> Just wanted to check that these PRs are good to go?

I haven't had an occasion to check again, but I am confident that Sergio
has taken my comments into account.  I'll try to find the time to do
another full review when we're in WGLC.

At this stage, I'm more concerned about implementation experience, it
makes me nervous when people standardise stuff that nobody has implemented.
It would be great if somebody implemented the full spec (including ICE
Restarts) on the client side, so I can test the server side.

Regards,

-- Juliusz