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Re: [Wish] Video ingest over QUIC

Roberto Peon <fenix@fb.com> Fri, 23 July 2021 20:12 UTC

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From: Roberto Peon <fenix@fb.com>
To: Lucas Pardue <lucaspardue.24.7@gmail.com>, "Das, Dibakar" <dibakar.das@intel.com>
CC: Sergio Garcia Murillo <sergio.garcia.murillo@gmail.com>, "avt@ietf.org" <avt@ietf.org>, "wish@ietf.org" <wish@ietf.org>, Alan Frindell <afrind=40fb.com@dmarc.ietf.org>, "quic@ietf.org" <quic@ietf.org>, "Kirill Pugin" <ikir@fb.com>
Thread-Topic: [Wish] Video ingest over QUIC
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Subject: Re: [Wish] Video ingest over QUIC
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One gets to choose which to overflow—streamID or streamOffset, or both!
Datagram-like things, where we choose the streamID option will use more bits-sum-total across the session to represent the whole address-space
… but likely not enough to matter in net.
-=R

From: QUIC <quic-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of Lucas Pardue <lucaspardue.24.7@gmail.com>
Date: Friday, July 23, 2021 at 1:04 PM
To: "Das, Dibakar" <dibakar.das@intel.com>
Cc: Sergio Garcia Murillo <sergio.garcia.murillo@gmail.com>om>, "avt@ietf.org" <avt@ietf.org>rg>, "wish@ietf.org" <wish@ietf.org>rg>, Alan Frindell <afrind=40fb.com@dmarc.ietf.org>rg>, "quic@ietf.org" <quic@ietf.org>rg>, Kirill Pugin <ikir@fb.com>
Subject: Re: [Wish] Video ingest over QUIC

On Fri, Jul 23, 2021 at 8:46 PM Das, Dibakar <dibakar.das@intel.com<mailto:dibakar.das@intel.com>> wrote:
Thanks. So, you are making use of Stream ID being pretty long and there is no chance of overflow.

I'm pretty sure someone in the QUIC WG did a back of a napkin calculation about how long it would take to overflow QUIC Stream IDs. I can't remember the figure but it was big, perhaps we should capture that number somewhere more formally :-D

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