Re: [Wish] draft charter

Adam Roach <adam@nostrum.com> Sat, 19 December 2020 03:13 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Wish] draft charter
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BTW, I'm out of the office the next two weeks; but December 2021 is what 
I had in mind.

/a

On 12/18/20 20:12, Murray S. Kucherawy wrote:
> Sounds good to me.  I've been incommunicado this week but next week is 
> much more open (technically on vacation as of now) so I'll be catching 
> up.  I owe EXTRA a big document review too.
>
> -MSK
>
> On Fri, Dec 18, 2020 at 2:54 PM Barry Leiba <barryleiba@computer.org 
> <mailto:barryleiba@computer.org>> wrote:
>
>     I’m happy to put in a milestone for Dec 2021, or whatever other
>     month the proponents want to use. Murray’s going to get this WG,
>     so I’ve added him to the TO list in case he wants to comment.
>
>     Barry
>
>     On Fri, Dec 18, 2020 at 4:22 PM Adam Roach <adam@nostrum.com
>     <mailto:adam@nostrum.com>> wrote:
>
>         On 12/11/20 13:24, Charles Eckel (eckelcu) wrote:
>         > I had a look at the draft charter at
>         https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/charter-ietf-wish/.
>         > Overall, it looks pretty good to me, but I do have a couple
>         questions.
>         >
>         > 1) Is the intent that any WebRTC server, and any WebRTC
>         client, be able to use this protocol to establish a one way
>         media session to forward its own view of the WebRTC media
>         streams, with or without any alteration, to a broadcast network?
>
>
>         Server-to-server isn't really in scope, although a server
>         taking media
>         that it is receiving and setting up a rebroadcast for it using
>         WISH is
>         certainly possible.
>
>
>         > 2) I understood from the dispatch session, the time frame
>         for this work to complete is expected to be relatively short.
>         It would be helpful to see milestones with anticipated dates
>         for completion.
>
>
>         Definitely a good point! Notionally, this is your typical "as
>         long as it
>         takes but not any longer" desideratum, but we should have
>         goals. I'd
>         love to see a single milestone that is "submit WISH document
>         to IESG for
>         publication" with a date sometime in 2021. I know this is
>         aggressive,
>         but I'm using MARTINI as my idealized model, and we managed to
>         go from
>         first draft to publication requested in 13 months.
>
>         /a
>
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