Re: [Wish] WG recharter

Hi Bernard,

Happy to include any further considerations on the charter, however, I
would expect the work on the specific features to be included in WHEP to
happen after the recharter is done, not before.

Regarding the specific DRM and rewind functionalities, there is not a
standard way of implementing them that we can reuse here. In our current
charter we have specified that in case of an extension of the core
protocols (i.e. RTP/SDP) is needed, we should translate the requirements to
the RTCWEB/AVTCORE/MMUSIC groups so the work is actually done there. Same
thing about live captions/subtitles. That's why we have specified in the
charter that the protocols we define must be extensible so we can
incorporate those features when they become available.

Not sure exactly what your point about datachannel is, but I am seeing the
exactly opposite direction on the market trends (which will of course
change when/if the MOQ specs are available).

Best regards
Sergio

On Fri, Apr 14, 2023 at 7:20 PM Bernard Aboba <bernard.aboba@gmail.com>
wrote:

> One thing that the Charter doesn't make clear is the functionality that is
> desired in the distribution protocol (e.g. WHEP).
>
> As an example, "must have" features in low-latency sports streaming
> include support for DRM as well as "rewind".
>
> These features are mentioned neither in the WISH re-charter, nor in the
> WHEP draft.
>
> So I'm concerned that the charter as well as the WHEP design may be
> missing "the elephant in the room", which is that we are seeing WebRTC data
> channel being used for some low latency or ultra low latency use cases,
> rather than RTP.   WHIP doesn't seem very well suited for those scenarios.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 14, 2023 at 9:39 AM Sergio Garcia Murillo <
> sergio.garcia.murillo@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Having heard no further feedback, I have merged the PR for the new
>> charter:
>>
>> https://github.com/wish-wg/wg-materials/blob/main/charter/01-00.md
>>
>> Let's get the ball rolling!
>>
>> @Sean Turner <sean@sn3rd.com> can we start the adoption of the WHEP
>> draft now? or do we need the recharter to happen officially?
>>
>> Best regards
>> Sergio
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 11, 2023 at 3:55 PM Sergio Garcia Murillo <
>> sergio.garcia.murillo@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Sounds good, thanks!
>>>
>>> El mar, 11 abr 2023 15:30, Sean Turner <sean@sn3rd.com> escribió:
>>>
>>>> Sergio,
>>>>
>>>> I’d wait until Friday, and then go ahead and merge it. Niels and I can
>>>> take it from there.
>>>>
>>>> spt
>>>>
>>>> > On Apr 11, 2023, at 05:09, Tim Panton <tim@pi.pe> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > I think I was the only one with a substantive objection before. I’m
>>>> happy with the new text.
>>>> > Thanks.
>>>> > T.
>>>> >
>>>> >> On 11 Apr 2023, at 09:07, Sergio Garcia Murillo <
>>>> sergio.garcia.murillo@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Hi all,
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I have incorporated all the feedback to the PR of the charter:
>>>> >> https://github.com/wish-wg/wg-materials/pull/6/files
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Has anyone any pending feedback/change they would like to make or is
>>>> it fine if I merge the PR so we can do the rechartering?
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Best regards
>>>> >> Sergio
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