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Re: [Wish] WG recharter

Bernard Aboba <bernard.aboba@gmail.com> Fri, 14 April 2023 17:20 UTC

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Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2023 10:20:27 -0700
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Subject: Re: [Wish] WG recharter
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One thing that the Charter doesn't make clear is the functionality that is
desired in the distribution protocol (e.g. WHEP).

As an example, "must have" features in low-latency sports streaming
include support for DRM as well as "rewind".

These features are mentioned neither in the WISH re-charter, nor in the
WHEP draft.

So I'm concerned that the charter as well as the WHEP design may be missing
"the elephant in the room", which is that we are seeing WebRTC data channel
being used for some low latency or ultra low latency use cases, rather than
RTP.   WHIP doesn't seem very well suited for those scenarios.





On Fri, Apr 14, 2023 at 9:39 AM Sergio Garcia Murillo <
sergio.garcia.murillo@gmail.com> wrote:

> Having heard no further feedback, I have merged the PR for the new charter:
>
> https://github.com/wish-wg/wg-materials/blob/main/charter/01-00.md
>
> Let's get the ball rolling!
>
> @Sean Turner <sean@sn3rd.com> can we start the adoption of the WHEP draft
> now? or do we need the recharter to happen officially?
>
> Best regards
> Sergio
>
> On Tue, Apr 11, 2023 at 3:55 PM Sergio Garcia Murillo <
> sergio.garcia.murillo@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Sounds good, thanks!
>>
>> El mar, 11 abr 2023 15:30, Sean Turner <sean@sn3rd.com> escribió:
>>
>>> Sergio,
>>>
>>> I’d wait until Friday, and then go ahead and merge it. Niels and I can
>>> take it from there.
>>>
>>> spt
>>>
>>> > On Apr 11, 2023, at 05:09, Tim Panton <tim@pi.pe> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > I think I was the only one with a substantive objection before. I’m
>>> happy with the new text.
>>> > Thanks.
>>> > T.
>>> >
>>> >> On 11 Apr 2023, at 09:07, Sergio Garcia Murillo <
>>> sergio.garcia.murillo@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Hi all,
>>> >>
>>> >> I have incorporated all the feedback to the PR of the charter:
>>> >> https://github.com/wish-wg/wg-materials/pull/6/files
>>> >>
>>> >> Has anyone any pending feedback/change they would like to make or is
>>> it fine if I merge the PR so we can do the rechartering?
>>> >>
>>> >> Best regards
>>> >> Sergio
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