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Subject: Re: [Wish] Can a client switch tokens?
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> In order to prevent this scenario, WHIP endpoints SHOULD generate URLs
> with enough randomness,

I already do that, thanks.

My question is whether I should allow switching tokens mid-session, or
whether I should accept expired tokens on the session endpoint.  I can see
pros to either approach, so I'd like some advice from people wiser than me.

(None of the clients that I've played with appear to be able to renew
a token mid-session, so perhaps it's better to accept expired tokens and
bind the token to the one used in the initial request.)

-- Juliusz

