Re: [woes] Proposed charter, post-Quebec edition

"Richard L. Barnes" <rbarnes@bbn.com> Thu, 04 August 2011 19:25 UTC

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My understanding was that a JOSE data structure would protect a sequence of octets, which could be whatever the signer/encryptor desires.  

JOSE:JSON::CMS:ASN.1

--Richard 


On Aug 3, 2011, at 5:13 PM, Paul C. Bryan wrote:

> On Wed, 2011-08-03 at 14:35 -0600, Matt Miller wrote:
>> On Aug 3, 2011, at 14:33, Thomas Hardjono wrote:
>> 
>> > Paul,
>> > 
>> > Looks good.
>> > 
>> > Just my clarification, looking at 1) and 2) does it mean that the
>> > resulting JOSE WG specifications can be applied to non-JSON data
>> > structures? (I'm ok with this).
>> 
>> Yes; at least one of the desired uses is to sign/encrypt XMPP stanzas! (-:
>> 
> 
> For my edification, why would JOSE want to concern itself with representations of other media types, rather than allowing other transformations to deal with this?
> 
> Put another way, if there were a method of encapsulating and encoding non-JSON media types in a JSON structure, would JOSE seek to reinvent such a thing, or merely defer to using it?
> 
> Paul
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