Re: [woes] New WOES charter proposal

Matt Miller <mamille2@cisco.com> Mon, 25 July 2011 17:18 UTC

Return-Path: <mamille2@cisco.com>
X-Original-To: woes@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: woes@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9781221F8BC3 for <woes@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 25 Jul 2011 10:18:24 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -2.599
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599]
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gxqEkPFQumyd for <woes@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 25 Jul 2011 10:18:24 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from rcdn-iport-4.cisco.com (rcdn-iport-4.cisco.com [173.37.86.75]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E46DC21F8BC2 for <woes@ietf.org>; Mon, 25 Jul 2011 10:18:23 -0700 (PDT)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=mamille2@cisco.com; l=4205; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1311614304; x=1312823904; h=subject:mime-version:from:in-reply-to:date:cc:message-id: references:to; bh=cj9DBPJQDK2dtPrQyITNXMcueNGNjC4wJ7kTfqvwBeE=; b=dx8Lj2wnIqVc2dfcCRnB54SC+042xZzhlJDKjsA6KVb8CoBuqR7ZBZvk NoMs4wS+6KOIFkyTpigWa5REpRHuqEItbvehV6o511zARpTnmQ86DBEoG ot2KpWeqp218+Eaui9u9L1dsp1+iujsMLHkUIDO6B6uFkXNrPWyKKCmJU k=;
X-Files: smime.p7s : 2214
X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true
X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av0EANakLU6rRDoI/2dsb2JhbAA0AQEBAQMUAXARDBg6AhJRBxcnpzJ3qm+eFIVgXwSScJB8
X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos; i="4.67,263,1309737600"; d="p7s'?scan'208"; a="6193185"
Received: from mtv-core-3.cisco.com ([171.68.58.8]) by rcdn-iport-4.cisco.com with ESMTP; 25 Jul 2011 17:18:17 +0000
Received: from sjc-vpn6-452.cisco.com (sjc-vpn6-452.cisco.com [10.21.121.196]) by mtv-core-3.cisco.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id p6PHIGja024763; Mon, 25 Jul 2011 17:18:16 GMT
Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084)
Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail-5-447130758"; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg="sha1"
From: Matt Miller <mamille2@cisco.com>
In-Reply-To: <4E2DA4D5.90309@mnt.se>
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2011 13:18:16 -0400
Message-Id: <AF38514B-44F1-4BF6-AF62-B765E64BB0B6@cisco.com>
References: <B2ABF893-10E6-496A-8F63-FFA2C9C89541@vpnc.org> <0DE0E2DE-A2FC-40DF-978B-594658571658@vpnc.org> <B26C1EF377CB694EAB6BDDC8E624B6E723160841@CH1PRD0302MB115.namprd03.prod.outlook.com> <23656536-E4BA-41BE-AA61-A23654246826@gmx.net> <A42506AF-BE66-4308-AD7B-03B4323D87CE@vpnc.org> <4E1F6AAD24975D4BA5B168042967394348D3F7F1@TK5EX14MBXC201.redmond.corp.microsoft.com> <4E164455.9020309@cs.tcd.ie> <4E171C20.8000305@dcrocker.net> <4E1F557F.8030500@cs.tcd.ie> <4E20DA1E.1020201@bbiw.net> <4E20DD0B.2080106@cs.tcd.ie> <4E1F6AAD24975D4BA5B168042967394348D4C6D2@TK5EX14MBXC201.redmond.corp.microsoft.com> <428F491B-718F-4B5D-BF96-C82CE0777A53@bbn.com> <1311613198.28852.54.camel@dynamo> <4E2DA4D5.90309@mnt.se>
To: Leif Johansson <leifj@mnt.se>
X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084)
Cc: woes@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [woes] New WOES charter proposal
X-BeenThere: woes@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12
Precedence: list
List-Id: "Web Object Encryption and Signing \(woes\) BOF discussion list" <woes.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/woes>, <mailto:woes-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/woes>
List-Post: <mailto:woes@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:woes-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/woes>, <mailto:woes-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2011 17:18:24 -0000

On Jul 25, 2011, at 13:16, Leif Johansson wrote:

> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> Hash: SHA1
> 
> On 07/25/2011 06:59 PM, Paul C. Bryan wrote:
>> I now find myself hoping this is not the beginning someone making a case
>> for ASN.1 encoding in WOES.
>> 
>> For my edification, can someone comment on how CMS would likely be
>> referenced in WOES? Would it likely be a normative reference (i.e. key
>> transport/wrapping, as it is in xmlenc-core), or otherwise would it
>> probably be just informational?
> 
> We seem to be bike-shedding on the words "based on" in the charter.
> Perhaps it helps if we say something to the effect that WOES draws
> upon experience from CMS and XML-dsig/enc and leave it at that.
> 

+1


- m&m

Matt Miller - <mamille2@cisco.com>
Collaboration Software Group - Cisco Systems, Inc.