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From: Mike Bishop <mbishop@evequefou.be>
To: Sean Turner <sean@sn3rd.com>, WPACK List <wpack@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [Wpack] Call for adoption of draft-yasskin-wpack-use-cases (redux)
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This seems like the wrong order of things to me.  If the point is to adopt a document that describes the scenarios we actually have consensus on, why are the others not moved to the appendix in the version prior to the adoption call?

If the point is simply to have consensus on the fact that we have a scenario document, fine, but even if it's temporary I don't really like the idea of having a WG-adopted document that describes scenarios as in-scope that don't have consensus.

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From: Wpack <wpack-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Sean Turner
Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2021 10:14 PM
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Subject: [Wpack] Call for adoption of draft-yasskin-wpack-use-cases (redux)

Hi! This message starts a WG call for adoption of draft-yasskin-wpack-use-cases. This is the 2nd WG call for adoption for this I-D; the 1st WG call for adoption did not garner enough interest for the chairs to make a decision, but at IETF 111 the WG discussed adopting the I-D and trimming it down version to only agreed use cases (and sticking the others in an appendix). The I-D can be found here:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-yasskin-wpack-use-cases/

This adoption call will run until 10 September 2021 at 2359 UTC.* Please indicate whether or not you would like to see this I-D adopted as a WG item.

Thanks,
Sean and Dave

* Note that I am allowing a little extra time here because it is vacation time.
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