Re: [Wpack] package: URL scheme

In the archival use case, isn't the distributer the authority, not the
publisher?
The publisher could be long gone.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Wpack <wpack-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Mallory Knodel
> Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 5:34 AM
> To: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>; wpack@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [Wpack] package: URL scheme
> 
> On 6/11/20 8:01 PM, Martin Thomson wrote:
> 
> > I have a bunch of concerns about this approach, but let's start with a
fairly
> major one:
> >
> > This buries the authority.  If your authority is truly
publisher.example, then
> that should be the authority component.  If you regard the rest as a split
> between the remainder of the identity of the resource itself and some
> secondary information about how that resource might be obtained, then you
> might have something closer to how you might want to structure a URI.
> 
> Agree that the user needs an indication of publisher, and that hiding the
URL
> is unhelpful to the user. Simplification sounds like the right thing to
do,
> because too much information can have the same effect as none.
> 
> -Mallory
> 
> > On Thu, Jun 11, 2020, at 08:00, Jeffrey Yasskin wrote:
> >
> > The URLs are obviously gross, so
> > https://github.com/WICG/webpackage/pull/560 suggests that browsers
> > avoid showing them to users in most cases.
> >
> > We could potentially simplify things if packages named things with
> > just paths instead of full URIs. We'd then name things based on the
> > bundle's origin. However, this loses archiving use cases.
> >
> > This is all further discussed in the following documents and issues,
> > but you shouldn't feel responsible to read everything here:
> >
> > *
> >
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1BYQEi8xkXDAg9lxm3PaoMzEutuQAZi
> 1r8Y
> > 0pLaFJQoo/edit#
> > *
> > https://chromium-
> review..googlesource.com/c/chromium/src/+/2226248/7#m
> > essage-0a3efda5aff84770a1729422a5b26aeca3ee4e80
> > <https://chromium-
> review.googlesource.com/c/chromium/src/+/2226248/7#m
> > essage-0a3efda5aff84770a1729422a5b26aeca3ee4e80>
> > * https://github.com/WICG/webpackage/issues/583
> > *
> >
> https://github.com/WICG/webpackage/blob/master/explainers/navigation-t
> > o-unsigned-bundles.md#urls-for-bundle-components
> > * https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/uri/2019Nov/0000.html
> 
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