Re: Draft Agenda for Houston

[Einar Stefferud <[e-mail]>]

Part of what needs to be done is to explain carefully to
non-conformant MTA (and Gateway) operators that they are hurting the
quality of service for all of the EMail Users in their own enclave,
and all of the EMail Users who need/want to correspond with the EMail
Users inside their enclave.

They are not especially affecting the quality of service for people
outside that set of EMail Users who are involved with the "low
quality" enclave, but the Low Quality Enclave is in control of and
damaging its own levels of service.

	Fouling their own nest, so to speak.

A simply fact about the Internet is that Quality of Servivce depends
on both ends of any connection both controlling their own Quality of
Service parameters.  Every Interesting Connection has Two Ends, and
most of the time in the Internet, each end is Separately Owned.

This makes Quality of Service into a cooperatative Enterprise in the
Internet, as compared to a Service Provider Enterprise where the
Network Operator Owns all of the middle and both ends...

And yes, I think we should publish a list of offending gateway
operators.  You can more or less start with the Commercial Service
Providers;-).  And of course MS-MAIL.

From InfoWorld:
Q: How many Microsoft engineers does it take to change a lightbulb?
A: None; they just declare darkness to be the standard.

Cheers...\Stef

From your message 23 Oct 93 09:14:59+0100:
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}> suggestions?
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}Yes, I have one because I don't know where it could be discussed
}
}What is to be done (as a whole community) with terribly not conformant
}  software that want to connect to GO-MHS? Or more precisely, would it be
}  possible to have a common attitude with sites/domains using that type
}  of software and really *endangering* the whole GO-MHS?
}
}It concernrs PRMDs (eg. using today MS-MAIL gateways) but also some ADMDs :-(
}
}As we have no direct control on what people buy and use, it is not an easy
}matter. What I suggest is to maintain and publish very widely a
}blacklist of products/providers which will give the name and version
}of the culprits along with a description of the problems.
}  - this would allow customers to check this list prior to buying choices?
}  - this would put a high pressure over the suppliers to fix the
}	problems as soon as possible.
}being unable to solve this type of problem is in my mind a serious X.400
}killer!
}
}-- PAP
}
}Unfortunatley, I will not be able to attend the Houston meeting