Re: MPEG asks for MIME review for the MPEG21 file format

"Anne van Kesteren" <annevk@opera.com> Mon, 21 May 2007 08:49 UTC

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Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 10:48:49 +0200
To: "Chris Lilley" <chris@w3.org>
Subject: Re: MPEG asks for MIME review for the MPEG21 file format
From: "Anne van Kesteren" <annevk@opera.com>
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On Sun, 20 May 2007 02:24:11 +0200, Chris Lilley <chris@w3.org>; wrote:
> Swapping your sentences around: yes, the whole idea of +xml is that you  
> know you can use a generic XML parser.
>
> Something that might or might not be xml, therefore should not use +xml.
>
> An XML parser must understand UTF-8 and UTF-16 and may understand other  
> encodings. I gather that the Efficient XML folks will declare a new  
> encoding, and parsers which don't know it will not parse it. Same is if  
> I said the encoding was
>
> encoding="i-bet-you-never-heard-of-this-one"

"Efficient XML" seems to be more on the content encoding level than the  
character encoding level to me. (Assuming you meant charset="blah" as  
opposed to encoding="blah" above given your examples of UTF-8 and  
UTF-16...)


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