Re: [Xml-sg-cmt] question: using entities to control line breaks
Sandy Ginoza <sginoza@amsl.com> Fri, 04 June 2021 05:24 UTC
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From: Sandy Ginoza <sginoza@amsl.com>
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Date: Thu, 03 Jun 2021 22:23:55 -0700
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Subject: Re: [Xml-sg-cmt] question: using entities to control line breaks
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Hi all, Just checking to see if there are any further thoughts on this before we publish RFC 9023 (see https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9023.txt). Thanks, Sandy > On Jun 3, 2021, at 10:40 AM, John R Levine <johnl@taugh.com> wrote: > >> Re: using entities in titles to control placement of line breaks in specific rendered files. Is it accurate that we should not be using entities in this manner? > > My inclination is to say that if this is an issue, the layout angine in xml2rfc should address it rather than hand-tweaks, but I'm also interested in what other people have to say. > >> >> Example: to prevent a line break after hyphen in the text output >> >> -- Before: >> >> Deterministic Networking (DetNet) Data Plane: MPLS over IEEE 802.1 Time- >> Sensitive Networking (TSN) >> >> -- After (if &nbhy; is used in the XML): >> >> Deterministic Networking (DetNet) Data Plane: MPLS over IEEE 802.1 >> Time-Sensitive Networking (TSN) >> >> -- Or, even better (if is used as well): >> >> Deterministic Networking (DetNet) Data Plane: >> MPLS over IEEE 802.1 Time-Sensitive Networking (TSN) >> >> [This would also yield the desired result in the PDF file.] >> >> Background: This is something the RPC did commonly in v2 era, but our understanding is that we're not supposed to do this in the v3 era. If that's accurate, then we'll add this to the list of 'guidance received'. > > Regards, > John Levine, johnl@taugh.com, Taughannock Networks, Trumansburg NY > Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. https://jl.ly > > -- > Xml-sg-cmt mailing list > Xml-sg-cmt@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/xml-sg-cmt >
- [Xml-sg-cmt] question: using entities to control … Alice Russo
- Re: [Xml-sg-cmt] question: using entities to cont… John R Levine
- Re: [Xml-sg-cmt] question: using entities to cont… Sandy Ginoza
- Re: [Xml-sg-cmt] question: using entities to cont… Henrik Levkowetz