Re: [xml2rfc] [xml2rfc-dev] Unicode box-drawing for a new --table-borders value?
John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> Sat, 30 January 2021 19:14 UTC
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Subject: Re: [xml2rfc] [xml2rfc-dev] Unicode box-drawing for a new --table-borders value?
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In article <342339E7-A47C-4C51-8852-7FFBB6A8C750@eggert.org> you write: >I think that would be excellent, but AFAIK Unicode can (still) only be used in contact names (see the recent "Unicode in >xml2rfc v3" thread over on rfc-interest@). I really hope we can just get to an agreement to allow Unicode anywhere in the >document. The problem is that laying out arbitrary Unicode is a nightmare. It would be helpful if people could list some scenarios where it would be useful. Carsten has (thanks!) but more voices would be nice. The ones that occur to me beyond people's names are math symbols like a≥b and words that are sometimes written with accents like coördinate. For the math symbols, I get the impression that people really want TeX style equation typesetting which while not impossible, would be a major extension. There's also typesetting stuff like “quotes” which we decided not to do when this came up before but we might revisit. What have I missed? R's, John
- [xml2rfc] Unicode box-drawing for a new --table-b… Daniel Kahn Gillmor
- Re: [xml2rfc] [xml2rfc-dev] Unicode box-drawing f… Lars Eggert
- Re: [xml2rfc] Unicode box-drawing for a new --tab… John Levine
- Re: [xml2rfc] [xml2rfc-dev] Unicode box-drawing f… John Levine
- Re: [xml2rfc] Unicode box-drawing for a new --tab… Tom Pusateri
- Re: [xml2rfc] Unicode box-drawing for a new --tab… John R Levine
- Re: [xml2rfc] Unicode box-drawing for a new --tab… Daniel Kahn Gillmor
- Re: [xml2rfc] Unicode box-drawing for a new --tab… Julian Reschke
- Re: [xml2rfc] Unicode box-drawing for a new --tab… Anders Rundgren
- Re: [xml2rfc] Unicode box-drawing for a new --tab… John R Levine
- Re: [xml2rfc] Unicode box-drawing for a new --tab… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [xml2rfc] Unicode box-drawing for a new --tab… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [xml2rfc] Unicode box-drawing for a new --tab… John R Levine
- Re: [xml2rfc] Insufficiency of txt format Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [xml2rfc] Insufficiency of txt format John Levine
- Re: [xml2rfc] [xml2rfc-dev] Unicode box-drawing f… Lars Eggert
- Re: [xml2rfc] [xml2rfc-dev] Unicode box-drawing f… Daniel Kahn Gillmor
- Re: [xml2rfc] [xml2rfc-dev] Unicode box-drawing f… Lars Eggert
- Re: [xml2rfc] [xml2rfc-dev] Unicode box-drawing f… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [xml2rfc] Insufficiency of txt format Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [xml2rfc] Insufficiency of txt format Carsten Bormann
- [xml2rfc] xml:space in v3.rnc (Re: Insufficiency … Carsten Bormann
- Re: [xml2rfc] xml:space in v3.rnc (Re: Insufficie… Julian Reschke
- Re: [xml2rfc] Unicode box-drawing for a new --tab… Daniel Kahn Gillmor