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Paul Kyzivat <pkyzivat@alum.mit.edu> Wed, 22 January 2020 14:54 UTC

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Subject: Re: [xml2rfc] Novice bad user on device, or Catch-22?
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I don't have a new draft on the horizon right now, so it will probably 
be awhile till I need a template.

Is there a way to search for drafts with v3 xml posted?
Other than that, I think a pointer to some templates from the tools page 
would be most easily found.

Otherwise, I'd probably be inclined to find a similar document with v2 
xml and convert that as a starting point.

	Thanks,
	Paul

On 1/21/20 12:03 PM, Henrik Levkowetz wrote:
> Hi Paul,
> 
> On 2020-01-21 17:34, Paul Kyzivat wrote:
>> On 1/21/20 8:37 AM, David R. Oran wrote:
>>> On 21 Jan 2020, at 3:26, Henrik Levkowetz wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Dave,
>>>>
>>> [snipping out to get to your question]
>>>
>>>> On 2020-01-21 06:51, David R. Oran wrote:
>>>>
>>>> And yes, having v3 templates would be helpful.  I'll see if I can fix that
>>>> too.  Where would you normally grab a template?
>>>>
>>> well, by googling :-)
>>> Probably the home ought to be off the tools home page at tools.ietf.org. There’s already a “templates” link on that page - it’s to Elwyn Davies examples, and ought to have a V3 template.
>>
>> I've just been lurking, but seems like a good time to comment...
>>
>> I normally get my "template" by starting with some similar document,
>> either one of my own if I have a suitable one, or from some document I
>> am generally aware of.
>>
>> But that doesn't work well now when there aren't many v3 documents to
>> crib from.
>>
>> I guess I would be inclined to grab the v2 for some similar document and
>> convert it. But I guess maybe that won't give optimal style for the new
>> document. So maybe having a recommended source of pure templates and
>> also some "real" documents that are judged to be "good" examples would
>> be helpful.
> 
> The RPC might have some prepublication files that have been edited to
> their standards.
> 
> For a schema v3 template, I've now run the converter on Elwyn's template
> to produce a v3 version, and linked to that from https://tools.ietf.org/.
> 
> 
> 	Henrik
>

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