Re: [xml2rfc] assuming that period (.) ends a sentence is sometimes wrong

Julian Reschke <julian.reschke@gmx.de> Mon, 01 March 2021 12:58 UTC

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From: Julian Reschke <julian.reschke@gmx.de>
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Subject: Re: [xml2rfc] assuming that period (.) ends a sentence is sometimes wrong
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Am 01.03.2021 um 13:46 schrieb Carsten Bormann:
> On 2021-03-01, at 13:16, Julian Reschke <julian.reschke@gmx.de> wrote:
>>
>> It means that a sequence of whitespace characters can be collapsed to a
>> single space character.
>
> That is XSLT normalize-space.

XPATH, to be pedantic.

It's not exactly the same thing in that leading / trailing space in
content can be significant (at least if you consider it to apply to text
child nodes of <t>). For instance,

   <t>see <xref target="foo"/></t>

is not equivalent to

   <t>see<xref target="foo"/></t>

At this point I'm not sure anymore what we're discussing here.

If your point is that RFC 7991bis should be clearer about what XML calls
the "default whitespace handling mode", I agree.

Best regards, Julian