Re: [xml2rfc] [irsg] character sets, was UPDATE regarding <u>
"Martin J. Dürst" <duerst@it.aoyama.ac.jp> Fri, 10 March 2023 09:56 UTC
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Subject: Re: [xml2rfc] [irsg] character sets, was UPDATE regarding <u>
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On 2023-03-05 01:38, Carsten Bormann wrote: > On 2023-03-04, at 16:46, John R Levine <johnl@taugh.com> wrote: >> >> In any event, this reminds us that we need some discipline in what we allow beyond letters and punctuation. Unicode does not make this any easier by providing so many different glyphs that look nearly or exactly the same. > > Correct, except that the “allow” is a bit misplaced. “Recommend”, “nudge authors towards”, “consider good style” etc. would have worked better for me. Yes indeed. > Anyway, that’s why there is now authoring support in kramdown-rfc for character repertoire diagnostics, initially with the tool “echars” (which doesn’t require actually using markdown). > > For those actually using markdown, eventually, I expect the yaml header to the markdown input to be able to carry a declaration of what non 10,32-126,160,8203,8209,8288 characters are actually desired in the input, so warnings can be emitted if the document isn’t staying inside those bounds. Please make the warnings say this in a positive way. We don't want people to fall back on Latin or ASCII just because they got scared by a warning. Declaring the characters involved should work for most scripts, but for Arabic and most Indic scripts at least, that's not enough, because you need the right contextual forms in the font. Also, for Chinese/Japanese(/Korean), you should know which it is (including the distinction between traditional and simplified Chinese) in order to select the right font. (Getting the wrong font will be legible, but will not look good enough for an RFC.) Regards, Martin. > Both of these would be helped by access to information about the current repertoire limitations of xml2rfc, which is why I initiated this subthread.
- Re: [xml2rfc] [irsg] UPDATE regarding <u> Re: AUT… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [xml2rfc] [irsg] UPDATE regarding <u> Re: AUT… John Levine
- Re: [xml2rfc] [irsg] UPDATE regarding <u> Re: AUT… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [xml2rfc] [irsg] character sets, was UPDATE r… John Levine
- Re: [xml2rfc] [irsg] character sets, was UPDATE r… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [xml2rfc] [irsg] character sets, was UPDATE r… John R Levine
- Re: [xml2rfc] [irsg] character sets, was UPDATE r… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [xml2rfc] [irsg] character sets, was UPDATE r… Fred Baker
- Re: [xml2rfc] [irsg] character sets, was UPDATE r… John Levine
- Re: [xml2rfc] [irsg] character sets, was UPDATE r… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [xml2rfc] [irsg] character sets, was UPDATE r… Martin J. Dürst
- Re: [xml2rfc] [irsg] character sets, was UPDATE r… Carsten Bormann