Re: [xml2rfc] [Tools-discuss] [Rfc-markdown] New xml2rfc release: v3.16.0

Carsten Bormann <> Fri, 20 January 2023 14:20 UTC

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> What I see is a bunch of preschooler asking the teacher to remove the lines because it is too hard to color inside them.

Most IETF contributors aren’t preschoolers.

What I see is a teacher handing out tools that can only draw square lines while what needs to be drawn has curves.

I think we have exhausted this discussion; no more light will be created.

The experiment to have xml2rfc mechanically chaperone RFC 7997 has failed, and we need to recover from that experiment — v3.16.0 is a start, but just a start.
(This is compounded by the fact that RFC 7997 is misguided as the way forward for RFCs, but that is a different discussion where I can imagine there could be reasonably different opinions.)

I’d rather spend the time discussing what we need to do to support the efforts of the authors, the reviewers, and the RPC editors in creating high-quality documents.

Grüße, Carsten