Re: [xml2rfc] [Tools-discuss] [Rfc-markdown] New xml2rfc release: v3.16.0

Brian E Carpenter <> Fri, 20 January 2023 02:15 UTC

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On 20-Jan-23 10:19, Marc Petit-Huguenin wrote:
> On 1/19/23 13:01, Carsten Bormann wrote:
>> On 2023-01-19, at 21:46, Marc Petit-Huguenin <> wrote:
>>> Because what I find to be problematic is allowing Unicode everywhere.
>> We already allow Unicode everywhere (all that ASCII is Unicode, too).
>> It’s only that some of the Unicode characters are shunned in certain contexts (and these aren’t even exactly the non-ASCII characters).
>> This discussion would be easier to take serious if we could at least get the terminology right.
> You are right.  Replace that by "Because what I find to be problematic is allowing the whole of Unicode everywhere."

As we would also find allowing the whole of SVG anywhere within artwork. But in both cases, the problem is not, in my opinion, one that can be solved by a ruleset. Our experience clearly shows that these are editorial and therefore human questions. If an RFC author wants to mention a café or an example of اردو in running text, a grammar cannot decide whether that is appropriate. Similarly for using a particular unusual format in SVG.

Thinking that we could decide such things robotically was a mistake, IMO.

Of course the decision of principle belongs in the RSWG, but I think our tools need to be pragmatic rather than doctrinaire.