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Re: [xml2rfc] referencing an old ID as expired

Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> Tue, 05 May 2020 20:55 UTC

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From: Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [xml2rfc] referencing an old ID as expired
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On 06-May-20 08:05, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
> 
> 
> On 5/5/20 3:35 PM, Paul Kyzivat wrote:
>> On 5/5/20 11:12 AM, Julian Reschke wrote:
>>> On 05.05.2020 16:49, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
>>>> I want to reference an old ID for various reasons.  The ID is expired
>>>> and no xml.  So I created my own ref section:
>>
>> I don't see much point in highlighting the fact that it is expired in 
>> the reference. *Any* time you reference a draft, even if it is active 
>> at the time you publish your document then it can eventually become 
>> expired. In some sense it remains a work in progress after it expires, 
>> it simply isn't making very much progress.
>>
>> And after a draft has expired you can still post a next version of it.
>>
>> Seems to be a distinction without a difference.
> 
> One draft had a feature which was later removed and never made it into 
> the rfc.  I wanted to reference the last draft with that feature for 
> discussion purposes.

That's fine, but doesn't change the rule that I-Ds are cited as "work
in progress", which is as old as the hills and has been re-asserted
several times by the RFC Editor.

I can't remember why, but I once needed to cite two different versions
of the same I-D; that required some contortions in the xml, but they were
certainly both listed as "work in progress".

Stay well,

    Brian

> 
> The other draft is dead and not going to restart.  However, it also 
> presented this feature and thus part of the feature discussion.
> 
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