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Re: [xml2rfc] rfc2629-xhtml.ent warning

Julian Reschke <julian.reschke@gmx.de> Tue, 16 May 2023 14:17 UTC

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From: Julian Reschke <julian.reschke@gmx.de>
To: Robert Moskowitz <rgm@htt-consult.com>, xml2rfc@ietf.org
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Subject: Re: [xml2rfc] rfc2629-xhtml.ent warning
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On 16.05.2023 16:09, Julian Reschke wrote:
> On 16.05.2023 15:55, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
>> ...
>> OK, I'll bite.  I am just doing this cookbook kind of, but always work
>> from existing xml files rather than go back for templates.
>>
>> What are "named character entities"
>
> See <https://www.w3.org/TR/2008/REC-xml-20081126/#sec-entity-decl>.
> Things like "&nbsp;" (instead of "&#160;").
>
> If you don't have any of these: just remove them. If you have some, and
> want to declare them locally: see
> <https://greenbytes.de/tech/webdav/rfc7749.html#special.unicode.code.points>.
>
> Note that XML has a few hardwired named entities that do not need to be
> declared, such as "&amp;" or "&lt;".
>
>>> RelaxNG doesn't help with these at all.
>>>
>>> The warning message from xml2rfc is completely misleading, as it
>>> conflates entity declarations with validation.
>>
>> It is new.  Wait, I just migrated to this system, so this is the first
>> use of xml2rfc here.  All prior builds was on my old F35 system.
>>
>> So this message MAY have something to do here.  I just checked and my
>> old system is on xml2rfc 3.11.1.
>
> I believe the message has been around since the version was bumped up to
> 3.x.

But I may misremember; the current text actually was added early 2022
(but I'm sure there was a similar warning before).

I just opened <https://github.com/ietf-tools/xml2rfc/issues/992>.

Best regards, Julian

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