Re: [xmpp] End-to-End Encryption Milestone

Yusuke DOI <yusuke.doi@toshiba.co.jp> Tue, 25 February 2014 01:13 UTC

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Dear Peter,

Thanks for the pointers. I agree: the perfect is the enemy of good. Hmm...

Yusuke

(2014-02-24 10:49), Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
> On 2/23/14, 6:43 PM, Yusuke DOI wrote:
>> Just a question:
>>
>> (2014-02-22 05:31), Ben Campbell wrote:
>>> The XMPP working group has a milestone for "Define a solution for
>>> end-to-end encryption." We have not seen much activity there of late,
>>> and it has been suggested that we may need to delete that milestone
>>> due to insufficient interest and energy.
>>
>> Does the 'end-to-end encryption' mean something like PGP encryption? I
>> just noticed XEP-0027 is histiorical. Does the WG need different solution?
>>
>> Also, XML encryption seems to fit if key management issue is solved (but
>> maybe too generic and complex for simple stanza encryption).
>>
>> http://www.w3.org/TR/xmlenc-core/
>
> Dear Yusuke,
>
> There is a *long* history of discussion and work on end-to-end encryption approaches. You might read the following:
>
> http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-xmpp-e2e-requirements-01.txt
>
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-saintandre-strint-workshop-xmpp-02#section-4
>
> https://stpeter.im/journal/1241.html
>
> It's quite a sad story, really.
>
> Peter
>