Re: [xrblock] WGLC for draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-discard-06.txt

Hi,Kevin:
Your proposed improvement looks good to me. 
Thanks for your suggested text.

Regards!
-Qin
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Kevin Gross 
  To: Romascanu, Dan (Dan) 
  Cc: xrblock@ietf.org 
  Sent: Monday, August 27, 2012 10:06 PM
  Subject: Re: [xrblock] WGLC for draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-discard-06.txt

  I apologize that I was not more responsive to the recent thread (http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/xrblock/current/msg00704.html) discussing revisions to this draft. I prepared the following wording improvements borrowing a bit from draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-burst-gap-discard-05 to address my concerns about insufficient justification and context and trying to more comprehensively address Collin Perkins's concerns about leading implementers astray in duplication discussion.

Section 1.1., paragraph 3:
OLD:

    The metric belongs to the class of transport-related terminal metrics
    defined in [MONARCH].

NEW:

    This block may be used in conjunction with [BGDISCARD] which provides
    additional information on the pattern of discarded packets.  However
    the metric in [BGDISCARD] may be used independently of the metrics in
    this block.

    In case of Discard count metric block sent together with Burst gap
    discard metric block defined in [BGDISCARD] to the media sender or
    RTP based network management system, information carried in the
    discard count metric block and Burst gap discard metric block allows
    them calculate the some bust gap summary statistics, e.g., gap
    discard rate.

    The metric belongs to the class of transport-related terminal metrics
    defined in [MONARCH].

Section 1.4., paragraph 2:
OLD:

    In case of Discard count metric block sent together with Burst gap
    discard metric block defined in [BGDISCARD] to the media sender or
    RTP based network management system, information carried in the
    discard count metric block and Burst gap discard metric block allows
    them calculate the some bust gap summary statistics,e.g., gap discard
    rate.

NEW:

    Discards due to late or early arriving packets affects user
    experience.  The reporting of discards alerts senders and other
    receivers to the need to adjust their transmission or reception
    strategies.  The reports allow network managers to diagnose these
    user experience problems.

Section 1.4., paragraph 3:
OLD:

    In case of replication being kept "on", reporting duplicate packets
    discards allows the media sender or network management system
    determine what proportion of lost packets are being concealed by the
    process and calculate the actual loss rate which is helpful to know
    that there are some network issues that need to be investigated.

NEW:

    The ability to detect duplicate packets can be used by managers to
    detect network layer or sender behavior which may indicate network or
    device issues.  Based on the reports, these issues may be addressed
    prior to any impact on user experience.

  Kevin Gross

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  Media Network Consultant

  AVA Networks - www.AVAnw.com, www.X192.org

  On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 12:41 AM, Romascanu, Dan (Dan) <dromasca@avaya.com> wrote:

    This is a WGLC for draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-discard-06.txt. Please
    send your questions, comments or concerns to the WG list before 9/9 COB.
    Messages indicating that you have read the document and are comfortable
    with it, including with the latest changes are also useful.

    The plain text version of the document is available at
    http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-discard-06.txt.

    The diff between versions 05 and 06 is accessible at
    https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url1=draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-discard-05&
    difftype=--html&submit=Go%21&url2=draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-discard-06

    Thanks and Regards,

    Shiba and Dan
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