Re: [xrblock] WGLC on draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-synchronization-02.txt

"Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" <> Thu, 07 March 2013 12:08 UTC

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Please find below my comments: 

1. Are the Initial Synchronization Delay and the Synchronization Offset new metrics introduced by this draft? So it seems, as in section 2.1 the mention to the Initial Synchronization Delay has a reference to RFC 6051, but there is no metric definition there, while the explanation about the Synchronization Offset seems to include a self-contained definition. In this case I believe that the guidelines of using the template in RFC 6390 applies, and section 2.1 must be re-written on these lines. 

2. Section 1.4 introduces the term of 'layered video sessions' which is used for the rest of the draft, with a reference to RFC 6190. However, RFC 6190 does not include or ever mentions 'layered video sessions' but rather 'layered multicast'. If this is the same term please mention this, or explain the relation. 

3. In section 3.2: 

>     It is
      recommended that the beginning of multimedia session is chosen as
      the time when the receiver has joined the first RTP session of the
      multimedia session.

Should not be RECOMMENDED (capitalized)? 

4. Same comment for the two instances of 'recommended in Section 4: 

>  For multimedia session with
   multiple media types (e.g., audio and video), it is recommended to
   choose the stream with the lower bandwidth as the reference stream.
   For layered video sessions, it is recommended to use the base layer
   stream as the reference stream.

5. The Security Considerations section mentions that 

>    The new RTCP XR report blocks proposed in this document introduces no
   new security considerations beyond those described in [RFC3611].

However, the text in the Security Consideration section of RFC 3611 was refering only to voice calls carried by RTP: 

>   The VoIP Metrics Report Block provides information on the quality of
   ongoing voice calls.  Though such information might be carried in an
   application specific format in standard RTP sessions, making it
   available in a standard format here makes it more available to
   potential eavesdroppers.

A supplementary statement should mention the fact that the extended report blocks defined by this document provide information not only about outgoing voice calls but als about other RTP applications like video sessions and multimedia sessions. Making available information about this applications in a standard format is also a potential security concern. 



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> 02.txt
> This is an announcement of a 2 weeks XRBLOCK WG last call on "Report
> Block for Synchronization Delay and Offset Metrics Reporting"
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