Re: [xrblock] FW:I-DAction:draft-alvestrand-rtcweb-stats-registry-00.txt

Sure, I will. I also am aware Albrecht has already helped forward the message.
Thanks Albrecht.

Regards!
-Qin
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" <dromasca@avaya.com>
To: "Qin Wu" <bill.wu@huawei.com>; <xrblock@ietf.org>
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 5:57 PM
Subject: Re: [xrblock] FW:I-DAction:draft-alvestrand-rtcweb-stats-registry-00.txt

> Hi Qin,
> 
> If you subscribed to the rtcweb list it would be best that you forward
> directly your comments there - does this seem OK? 
> 
> Dan
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Qin Wu [mailto:bill.wu@huawei.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 3:45 AM
>> To: Romascanu, Dan (Dan); xrblock@ietf.org
>> Subject: Re: [xrblock] FW: I-DAction:draft-alvestrand-rtcweb-stats-
>> registry-00.txt
>> 
>> Hi, Dan:
>> I am happy to see my comments being forwarded to rtcweb@ietf.org if
> they
>> are interested and want to more input from XRBLOCK WG. However I am
> not
>> sure how much of their work is related to XRBLOCK work? Do they only
>> look for some basic metrics obtained from SR/RR. But I agree with you
>> consistency between the metrics used by RTCP XR and RTCWEB is a good
>> thing.
>> It will be great to see metrics used by RTCP XR can be used in RTCWEB
> as
>> well.
>> 
>> BTW: I have subscribed to rtcweb list and am interest to join the
>> discussion as I said and expected.
>> 
>> Regards!
>> -Qin
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" <dromasca@avaya.com>
>> To: "Qin Wu" <bill.wu@huawei.com>; <xrblock@ietf.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 5:45 PM
>> Subject: Re: [xrblock] FW: I-DAction:draft-alvestrand-rtcweb-stats-
>> registry-00.txt
>> 
>> 
>> > Hi Qin,
>> >
>> > Would you like me to forward your comments to rtcweb@ietf.org? You
> can
>> > also subscribe to the list to follow the responses and participate
> in
>> > the discussions, but I should warn you that performance statistics
> are
>> a
>> > fraction of the many problems this very active WG have on their
> hands.
>> >
>> > Dan
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: Qin Wu [mailto:bill.wu@huawei.com]
>> >> Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 4:17 AM
>> >> To: Romascanu, Dan (Dan); xrblock@ietf.org
>> >> Subject: Re: [xrblock] FW: I-D
> Action:draft-alvestrand-rtcweb-stats-
>> >> registry-00.txt
>> >>
>> >> Interesting -00 draft.
>> >> Have a quick look at this draft, I have the folowing comments:
>> >> 1. Jitter should also refers to PDV draft since PDV draft provide
>> >> another two measurement methods with different measurement
> precision
>> >> which are different from "inter-arrival jitter" described in
> RFC3550.
>> >> In the early version of PDV draft, we also accomodate
> "inter-arrival
>> >> jitter" and support reporting inter-arrival jitter. However we
> remove
>> >> inter-arrival jitter from this draft based on WG review since
> inter-
>> >> arrival jitter use different measurement unit and has wider range.
>> >> 2.ReceivedPacketCount
>> >> Loss RLE report block can be used to report the packet received. It
>> is
>> >> more staightfoward to calculate ReceivedPacket Count based on  Loss
>> > RLE
>> >> report block defined in RFC3611 rather than based on MIB
> information
>> >> defined in RFC2959. Also in some case, WebClient may not support
>> SNMP.
>> >> So I suggest to refer to section 4.1, RFC3611.
>> >> 3. RecevedOctetCount
>> >> Same as RecevedPacketCount. I think Loss RLE report block also can
> be
>> >> used to calculate RecevedOctetCount.
>> >> It is better to refer to section 4.1, RFC3611.
>> >> 4. Section 4.2 Transport variable
>> >> It is not clear how Transport variable is relate to Variables from
>> > basic
>> >> RTCP SR/RR defined in section 4.1, how transport vaiable is
>> > calculated,
>> >> e.g., what's the relationship between ReceivedPackets and
>> >> ReceivedPacketcount? Are they the same variable?
>> >> Is 4 transport variable defined in section 4.2 sufficient to
> measure
>> > the
>> >> performance of media stream? Why not refer to some variable defined
>> in
>> >> XRBLOCK WG?
>> >>
>> >> Regards!
>> >> -Qin
>> >>
>> >>  ----- Original Message -----
>> >> From: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" <dromasca@avaya.com>
>> >> To: <xrblock@ietf.org>
>> >> Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 7:48 PM
>> >> Subject: [xrblock] FW: I-D Action:draft-alvestrand-rtcweb-stats-
>> >> registry-00.txt
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> >I believe that this I-D (individual submission targeting the
> RTCWEB
>> > WG)
>> >> > is of interest for some of the folks who participate in XRBLOCK.
>> >> > Reaching consistency between the metrics used by RTCP XR and
> RTCWEB
>> >> > (when relevant) seems to be desirable.
>> >> >
>> >> > Regards,
>> >> >
>> >> > Dan
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > -----Original Message-----
>> >> > From: i-d-announce-bounces@ietf.org
>> >> > [mailto:i-d-announce-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of
>> >> > internet-drafts@ietf.org
>> >> > Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 12:17 PM
>> >> > To: i-d-announce@ietf.org
>> >> > Subject: I-D Action:
> draft-alvestrand-rtcweb-stats-registry-00.txt
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line
> Internet-Drafts
>> >> > directories.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Title           : A Registry for WebRTC statistics identifiers
>> >> > Author(s)       : Harald T. Alvestrand
>> >> > Filename        : draft-alvestrand-rtcweb-stats-registry-00.txt
>> >> > Pages           : 8
>> >> > Date            : 2012-09-24
>> >> >
>> >> > Abstract:
>> >> >   This memo describes a registration procedure for statistics
>> >> >   identifiers used in the WebRTC Javascript API to access
>> > statistical
>> >> >   information about a PeerConnection.
>> >> >
>> >> >   It also gives some identifiers that will, when approved, form
> the
>> >> >   initial content of this registry.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
>> >> > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-alvestrand-rtcweb-stats-
>> >> registry
>> >> >
>> >> > There's also a htmlized version available at:
>> >> >
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-alvestrand-rtcweb-stats-registry-
>> 00
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at:
>> >> > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/
>> >> >
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