Re: [xrblock] FW: New Liaison Statement, "Announcing consent of new P.1200-series Recommendations"

Paul Coverdale <coverdale@sympatico.ca> Tue, 16 October 2012 14:02 UTC

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From: Paul Coverdale <coverdale@sympatico.ca>
To: 'Qin Wu' <bill.wu@huawei.com>, "'Romascanu, Dan (Dan)'" <dromasca@avaya.com>, xrblock@ietf.org
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Subject: Re: [xrblock] FW: New Liaison Statement, "Announcing consent of new P.1200-series Recommendations"
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I have been closely involved with P.NAMS and P.NBAMS in ITU-T, and I expect to be at IETF 85. I will be happy to provide any additional background on the liaison statement, during the XRBLOCK WG meeting.

...Paul

>-----Original Message-----
>From: xrblock-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:xrblock-bounces@ietf.org] On
>Behalf Of Qin Wu
>Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 8:15 AM
>To: Romascanu, Dan (Dan); xrblock@ietf.org
>Subject: Re: [xrblock] FW: New Liaison Statement, "Announcing consent of
>new P.1200-series Recommendations"
>
>Hi, Dan:
>Good to hear P.NAMS and P.NBAMS have been finally published as P.1201
>and P.1202 recently. I think (-02) QoE draft should update the relevant
>outdated references to P.NAMS and P.NBAMS.
>Unfortunately P.1201 is further splitted into two documents (P.1201.1
>and P.1201.2) to support lower resolution and higher resolution
>separately.
>So does P.1202. So we need to think about whether QoE draft reference
>parent document P.1201 or reference two derived documents P.1201.1 and
>P.1201.2.
>
>Another thing is lower resolution and higher resolution are supported
>separately. However MoS value for lower resolution and higher resolution
>can occupy the same ranges which is the issues also raised by Alan, so I
>believe QoE XR Block should indicate which resolution is supported
>(i.e., indicate which MoS reference is used.)
>
>Chairs, it is better to take some time in the meeting to discuss how
>this Liaison Statement from ITU-T SG12 affect QoE draft.
>
>Regards!
>-Qin
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" <dromasca@avaya.com>
>To: <xrblock@ietf.org>
>Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2012 8:02 PM
>Subject: [xrblock] FW: New Liaison Statement,"Announcing consent of new
>P.1200-series Recommendations"
>
>
>> Please see below a Liaison Statement from ITU0T SG-12.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Dan
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Liaison Statement Management Tool [mailto:lsmt@ietf.org]
>>
>> Title: Announcing consent of new P.1200-series Recommendations
>Submission Date: 2012-10-02 URL of the IETF Web page:
>http://datatracker.ietf.org/liaison/1197/
>>
>> From: ITU-T SG 12 (Hiroshi Ota <hiroshi.ota@itu.int>)
>> To: Metric Blocks for use with RTCP's Extended Report Framework (Dan
>Romascanu <dromasca@avaya.com>, Shida Schubert <shida@ntt-at.com>)
>> Cc: Gonzalo Camarillo <gonzalo.camarillo@ericsson.com>,Robert Sparks
><rjsparks@nostrum.com>,Metric Blocks for use with RTCP's Extended Report
>Framework Discussion List <xrblock@ietf.org>,ITU TSBSG12
><tsbsg12@itu.int> Reponse Contact: Jörgen Gustafsson
><jorgen.gustafsson@ericsson.com>, Alexander Raake
><alexander.raake@telekom.de> Technical Contact:
>> Purpose: For information
>>
>> Body:
>> Attachments:
>>
>>    Announcing consent of new P.1200-series Recommendations
>>    https://datatracker.ietf.org/documents/LIAISON/liaison-2012-10-02-
>itu-t-sg-12-xrblock-announcing-consent-of-new-p1200-series-
>recommendations-attachment-1.pdf
>>
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