Re: [xrblock] I-D Action: draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcweb-rtcp-xr-metrics-01.txt

"Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" <dromasca@avaya.com> Thu, 26 March 2015 14:37 UTC

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From: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" <dromasca@avaya.com>
To: Roni Even <ron.even.tlv@gmail.com>, 'Varun Singh' <vsingh.ietf@gmail.com>, "xrblock@ietf.org" <xrblock@ietf.org>
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Hi,

I had a slight preference for keeping both, but I can go also with the recommendation made by Roni.

Regards,

Dan


From: xrblock [mailto:xrblock-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Roni Even
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Subject: Re: [xrblock] I-D Action: draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcweb-rtcp-xr-metrics-01.txt

Hi Varun,
I think that we can keep 6.7 and remove 6.8. Having the actual numbers allows for calculating rate and other statistics, so I find it more useful
Roni Even

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Subject: Re: [xrblock] I-D Action: draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcweb-rtcp-xr-metrics-01.txt


Hi all,

The -01 draft incorporates the changes discussed at IETF 91.
- new registry defined for WebRTC Statistics API
- added the SR and RR metrics, which were earlier in draft-alvestrand-rtcweb-stats-registry
- changed the TitleCased identifiers to camelCase, to keep consistency with the W3C document.

OPEN ISSUE (burst metrics):
The document currently defines two sets of burst metrics
- Section 6.7: Reports cumulative packets in a burst and the corresponding burst counts.
- Section 6.8.: Reports the average fraction of packets lost in a burst/gap.

From section 6.7, we can infer the average burst of packet loss/discards by dividing the total_packets_lost_in_burst/burst_count.
>From section 6.8, we can infer the impact of the burst packet loss, i.e., total_burst_loss/totel_expected_packets/burst_count

Do we keep both? or pick one?

Thoughts and comments on the open issue and the document in general are appreciated.

Regards,
Varun (on behalf of the authors)




On Sat, Feb 28, 2015 at 7:22 PM, <internet-drafts@ietf.org<mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org>> wrote:
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> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
> This draft is a work item of the Metric Blocks for use with RTCP's Extended Report Framework Working Group of the IETF.
>
> Title : Considerations for Selecting RTCP Extended Report (XR) Metrics for the WebRTC Statistics API
> Authors : Varun Singh
> Rachel Huang
> Roni Even
> Dan Romascanu
> Lingli Deng
> Filename : draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcweb-rtcp-xr-metrics-01.txt
> Pages : 17
> Date : 2015-02-28
>
> Abstract:
> This document describes monitoring features related to media streams
> in Web real-time communication (WebRTC). It provides a list of RTCP
> Sender Report, Receiver Report and Extended Report metrics, which may
> need to be supported by RTP implementations in some diverse
> environments. It also defines a new IANA registry, a list of
> identifiers for the WebRTC's statistics API. These identifiers are a
> set of RTCP SR, RR, and XR metrics related to the transport of
> multimedia flows.
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> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
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