Re: [xrblock] proposed change to discard draft for the issue:duplication packet discards

[Colin Perkins <[e-mail]>]

On 22 Aug 2012, at 03:52, Qin Wu wrote:
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Colin Perkins
> To: Qin Wu
> Cc: Kevin Gross ; [e-mail]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 6:02 AM
> Subject: Re: [xrblock] proposed change to discard draft for the issue:duplication packet discards
> 
> Qin,
> 
> On 20 Aug 2012, at 05:44, Qin Wu wrote:
>> Hi,
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Colin Perkins
>> To: Kevin Gross
>> Cc: [e-mail]
>> Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2012 12:12 AM
>> Subject: Re: [xrblock] proposed change to discard draft for the issue:duplication packet discards
>> 
>> Kevin,
>> 
>> On 17 Aug 2012, at 18:11, Kevin Gross wrote:
>>> I don't think it is necessary or appropriate to include this sort of value judgement. What is expensive? What is necessary? At best, this is getting tangential. I support the original wording of Qin's note though I think it should be a separate paragraph and perhaps marked as a note.
>> 
>> Qin's original wording seems to me to be encouraging duplication. I do not support that, since it does break RTCP statistics if done in the naïve way implied. I'm happy if someone wants to propose a more neutral wording, part-way between my suggestion and Qin's text.
>>  
>> [Qin]: How about rephrasing it as follows:
>> "
>> Note that duplicating RTP packets is for robustness or error resilience but may disrupts RTCP statitics.
>> In order to tackle this, the mechanism described in [draft-ietf-avext-rtp-duplication-00] can be used which
>> will not cause breakage of RTP streams or RTCP rules.
>> "
>> This statement will put as an indepent paragraph as Kevin suggested.
> 
> The "may disrupt RTCP statistics" is misleading: duplicating RTP packets in the naïve manner _will_ break RTCP. 
>  
> [Qin]:Okay, how about removing "may" from the proposed text?


That would improve it, although to my mind a stronger statement would still be desirable.

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