Re: [xrblock] [Gen-art] Review: draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-qoe-12

Alan Clark <alan.d.clark@telchemy.com> Tue, 12 November 2013 17:05 UTC

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Hi Joel

Thanks for your comments.

(i) Section 1.4

Proposed change

    The MOS Metrics Report Block can be used in any application of RTP
    for which QoE measurement algorithms are defined.

to

    The MOS Metrics Report Block can be used in any application of RTP
    for which QoE (Quality of Experience) measurement algorithms are defined.

(ii) Section 3.2.2

Proposed change
"The 8-bit ID is the local identifier of this segment in the range 1-255 
inclusive"
to
"The 8-bit CAID is the session specific reference to the calculation 
algorithm and associated qualifiers indicated in SDP (see Section 4.1) 
and used to compute QoE scores for this segment"

(iii) Section 3.2.1

Proposed change
"The 8-bit CAID is the local identifier of calculation algorithm 
associated with this segment in the range 1-255 inclusive. "
to
"The 8-bit CAID is the session specific reference to the calculation 
algorithm and associated qualifiers indicated in SDP (see Section 4.1) 
and used to compute QoE scores for this segment"

(iv) Section 4.1

Proposed change

    mapentry =  "calg:" 1*5 DIGIT ["/" direction]
                           ;Values other than 4095~4351 are valid
to
   mapentry =  "calg:" 1*3 DIGIT ["/" direction]
                           ;Values other than 1..255 are valid

and remove

  mostype = "mostype=" ("e"; Estimated MOS [P.800.1]
                            /"s";subjective MOS [P.800.1]
                            /"o";objective MOS [P.800.1]
                            /non-ws-string)

We will see if there are additional comments and then update the draft

Regards

Alan Clark


On 11/12/13, 7:12 AM, Joel Halpern wrote:
> I am the assigned Gen-ART reviewer for this draft. For background on
> Gen-ART, please see the FAQ at
>
> <http://wiki.tools.ietf.org/area/gen/trac/wiki/GenArtfaq>.
>
> Please resolve these comments along with any other Last Call comments
> you may receive.
>
> Document: draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-qoe-12
>     RTP Control Protocol (RTCP) Extended Report (XR) Blocks for
>                        MOS Metric Reporting
> Reviewer: Joel M. Halpern
> Review Date: 12-November-2013
> IETF LC End Date: 27-November-2013
> IESG Telechat date: N/A
>
> Summary: This document is nearly ready for publication as a Proposed 
> Standard RFC
>
> Major issues:
>
> Moderate issues:
>     In section 3.2.2 on Multi-Channel audio per SSRC Segment, the 
> format description for the Calculation Algorithm ID (CAID) reads:
> "The 8-bit ID is the local identifier of this segment in the range
> 1-255 inclusive."  I am pretty sure this is supposed to be an 
> algorithm ID, not a segment index?
>
>     The text in section 4.1 indicates that the number after "calg:" in 
> the mapentry of the calgextmap is used as the ID in the CAID of the 
> xrblock.  The packet format only allows 8 bits of value.  So why does 
> the SDP format allow up to 5 digits?  Also, is there some reason that 
> the special values 4095-4351 (in section 4.1) or 4096-4351 (in section 
> 4.2) are used rather than say equally invalid 512 through some 
> appropriate upper bound still in 3 digits?
>
> Minor issues:
>     Please ensure that all acronyms are expanded on first use. For 
> example, QoE is not expanded.
>
>     The notes in B.3 indicate that mostype was to be removed from the 
> SDP grammar.  But it is still defined.  And section 4.2 still mentions 
> it, even though it does not get referenced by the message format. 
> Please finish removing it.  (also "most type")
>
> Nits/editorial comments:
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