Re: [yaco-liaison-tool] From Field in Liaison Tool

Alexa Morris <amorris@amsl.com> Mon, 31 January 2011 16:20 UTC

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Hi Emilio,

Makes sense. Unfortunately, I think this is going to pose a real  
problem for us. IETF Secretariat is not leadership, we just upload  
liaisons on behalf of them on occasion. Stephanie (or any other member  
of the Secretariat team) should not be listed as a submitter. To use a  
somewhat flawed comparison, that would be a bit like giving the  
postman credit for the nice Christmas card that your friend wrote you.

Until we can determine how to address this, we are going to revert to  
using the old tool.

Thanks,
Alexa

On Jan 31, 2011, at 5:08 AM, Emilio A. Sánchez López wrote:

>   Hi everyone,
>
>   In the "Liaison Statement Management Tool Enhancements" statement  
> of work the point 2.6.1 says:
>
> """
> The “From:” field: The leadership of all recognized IETF entities  
> will have accounts on the tool. (Please see Section A.1 in the  
> Appendix.) When the submitter logs on to the tool, if the submitter  
> represents a single IETF entity (e.g., a WG), then the “From:” field  
> will include the name of the entity that the submitter represents,  
> followed by the
> submitter’s name in parenthesis, e.g.,
>
> IETF CCAMP WG (Adrian Farrel)
>
> If the submitter represents multiple entities (e.g., is a chair of  
> two or more WGs), then the “From:” field will provide a drop-down  
> list of these entities, and the submitter can select the appropriate  
> one for the current liaison statement.
>
> The submitter’s name will be a link to a “mail-to” form that will be  
> pre-populated with whatever address is inserted into the “Reply-To:”  
> field of the form. Initially, the “Reply-To:” field will be pre- 
> populated with the submitter’s e-mail address. However, the field
> will be editable, so that he or she can replace that address with  
> another address in cases where it is appropriate for responses to go  
> to another individual.
> """
>
>   So, the tool always add the submitter name after the entity name  
> but allows you to change the email address that submitter name  
> points to.
>
>   When submitting a Liaison on behalf of the IETF you can not avoid  
> that "Stephannie McCammon" (or the name of the person logged into  
> the tool) appears between parenthesis after "The IETF", but you can  
> change the address it points using the reply-to field.
>
>   Regards,
>
> El 28/01/11 16:36, Alexa Morris escribió:
>> Henrik, everyone,
>>
>> We have another question about something in the tool. When  
>> Stephanie, as
>> the liaison administrator, uploads a liaison, the tool makes it look
>> like the liaison is FROM her, see here:
>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/liaison/991/. While the liaison is  
>> from THE
>> IETF, if it is also going to be tied to a person there it should be  
>> tied
>> to the person who sent in the liaison OR a generic IETF address that
>> comes to us. Does that make sense?
>>
>> Alexa
>>
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