Re: [yaco-liaison-tool] Acceptance?
Henrik Levkowetz <henrik@levkowetz.com> Wed, 13 October 2010 16:14 UTC
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Subject: Re: [yaco-liaison-tool] Acceptance?
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Hi Alexa, On 2010-10-13 17:26 Alexa Morris said: > See inline: > > On Oct 13, 2010, at 12:44 AM, Emilio Sanchez wrote: > >> >> >> 3. When you enter an outgoing liaison statement it doesn't seem to >> show up in the liaison list once it is submitted. However, if you >> attempt to submit the same liaison a second time it says that a >> liaison of that name has already been submitted. >> >> >> When you send an outgoing liaison you have to mark that you >> have prior approval to send it. There is a checkbox to do this. >> Probably you didn't check it so the liaison is not public until >> someone approves it. The person who can approve the liaison depends >> on who you select the liaison comes from (If the liaison comes from >> a WG then the Area director can approve, if it comes from the IETF >> then the IETF chair should approve it. >> >> If you check that checkbox when creating the liaison then is >> supposed you have obtained prior approval so the liaison will go >> public without any other user interaction. >> >> > > This is very helpful, thanks! What should we do if we forget to click > "obtained prior approval"? Would it be possible (or desirable?) to get > a "you have not indicated that you have prior approval to post this > liaison. If you do not, please obtain approval before proceeding" or > some such warning? That may seem desirable if one is mainly posting _with_ prior approval, but adds an extra unwanted 'are you sure' prompt for those who should get post-approval... It doesn't seem to be fatal to forget to click this box, as it will then just go to the appropriate approval level for approval -- it won't be sitting waiting forever, I think? > Otherwise it seems that it: 1) people may be > confused about what step to take next or 2) the liaison may not get > posted, without the person quite realizing it that they failed to post > it correctly. 1) can be handled by a note in the page coming up after posting which indicates that the post has been sent to so-and-so for approval, maybe? 2) should never occur, as the post will then go for approval in a normal manner, no? Regards, Henrik > >> Thank you. >> >> Sincerely, >> >> Stephanie McCammon >> IETF Registrar >> 48377 Fremont Blvd, Ste. 117 >> Fremont, CA 94538 >> T: +1.510.492.4081 >> F: +1.510.492.4001 >> >> Association Management Solutions (AMS) >> Forum Management, Meeting, and Event Planning >> www.amsl.com >> >> >> >> From: Emilio Sanchez [mailto:esanchez@yaco.es] >> Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2010 1:20 PM >> To: Alexa Morris >> Cc: Henrik Levkowetz; Russ Housley; Stephanie McCammon >> >> Subject: Re: [yaco-liaison-tool] Acceptance? >> >> I've manage to fix the server so you can try whenever you want :) >> >> 2010/10/12 Alexa Morris <amorris@amsl.com> >> Thanks! I'll check back tomorrow and spend some time playing in the >> tool. >> >> Much appreciated, >> Alexa >> >> On Oct 12, 2010, at 1:12 PM, Emilio Sanchez wrote: >> >>> Hi Alexa, >>> >>> In the beta server beta.lsmt.yaco.es you have different test >>> users (username/password): >>> >>> admin/admin >>> This user is an IETF Liaison Manager >>> external/external >>> This user is an SDO Manager of 3GPP and WIPO >>> This user is an SDO Authorized of IEEE 802 and Open Grid Forum >>> internal/internal >>> This user is the Area Director of the Application Area >>> This user is a Working Group Secretary of 'Performance Metrics for >>> Other Layers' group. >>> internal2/internal2 >>> This user is the IETF/IESG Chair >>> This user is the IAB Executive Chair >>> Probably you want to use admin/admin cause this user is able to >>> do almost anything. >>> >>> By the way, it seems that the beta server is down right now. >>> I'm opening a ticket to our systems team so it will be fixed >>> tomorrow early in the morning. >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> 2010/10/12 Alexa Morris <amorris@amsl.com> >>> Henrik, Emilio, >>> >>> Looks like the Secretariat should get familiar with the new tool >>> ASAP! :-) >>> >>> I am reviewing, along with Stephanie McCammon (who processes >>> liaisons for the Secretariat) the new user manual. And I'd like us >>> to be able to play with the tool a bit as well, but I'm not sure if >>> we have a username / password to get into it. We may have received >>> one some time ago, not sure, but if we did I cannot locate it. >>> >>> Can someone please create an account on the tool so that we can >>> familiarize ourselves with it? >>> >>> Many thanks, >>> Alexa >>> >>> Begin forwarded message: >>> >>> From: Patrik Fältström <paf@cisco.com> >>> Date: October 11, 2010 8:03:07 AM PDT >>> To: Henrik Levkowetz <henrik@levkowetz.com> >>> Cc: yaco-liaison-tool@ietf.org >>> Subject: Re: [yaco-liaison-tool] Acceptance? >>> >>> >>> >>> On 11 okt 2010, at 16.51, Henrik Levkowetz wrote: >>> >>> Is it sorted out who is doing all the work with assigning the roles >>> at time of launch? >>> >>> No. What would you suggest as the optimal approach? >>> >>> >>> Have whoever handle the statements@ietf.org do the following: >>> >>> 1. Add the IAB and IETF chairs, wg chairs, area directors etc as >>> apropriate (as described in the document). >>> >>> 2. Add the liaisons in the IETF assigned and named on the IAB list >>> of liaisons. >>> >>> [done] >>> >>> Later: Have those liaisons be able to report (or possibly add) the >>> external liaisons that should be able to file incoming liaisons. >>> >>> Patrik >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> yaco-liaison-tool mailing list >>> yaco-liaison-tool@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/yaco-liaison-tool >>> >>> >>> ----------- >>> Alexa Morris / Executive Director / IETF >>> 48377 Fremont Blvd., Suite 117, Fremont, CA 94538 >>> Phone: +1.510.492.4089 / Fax: +1.510.492.4001 >>> Email: amorris@amsl.com >>> >>> Managed by Association Management Solutions (AMS) >>> Forum Management, Meeting and Event Planning >>> www.amsl.com <http://www.amsl.com/> >>> >>> >> >> ----------- >> Alexa Morris / Executive Director / IETF >> 48377 Fremont Blvd., Suite 117, Fremont, CA 94538 >> Phone: +1.510.492.4089 / Fax: +1.510.492.4001 >> Email: amorris@amsl.com >> >> Managed by Association Management Solutions (AMS) >> Forum Management, Meeting and Event Planning >> www.amsl.com <http://www.amsl.com/> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> yaco-liaison-tool mailing list >> yaco-liaison-tool@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/yaco-liaison-tool >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> yaco-liaison-tool mailing list >> yaco-liaison-tool@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/yaco-liaison-tool > > ----------- > Alexa Morris / Executive Director / IETF > 48377 Fremont Blvd., Suite 117, Fremont, CA 94538 > Phone: +1.510.492.4089 / Fax: +1.510.492.4001 > Email: amorris@amsl.com > > Managed by Association Management Solutions (AMS) > Forum Management, Meeting and Event Planning > www.amsl.com <http://www.amsl.com/> > > > > > _______________________________________________ > yaco-liaison-tool mailing list > yaco-liaison-tool@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/yaco-liaison-tool
- [yaco-liaison-tool] Fwd: Weekly Report, Project F… Henrik Levkowetz
- Re: [yaco-liaison-tool] Fwd: Weekly Report, Proje… Patrik Fältström
- Re: [yaco-liaison-tool] Fwd: Weekly Report, Proje… Emilio A. Sánchez López
- Re: [yaco-liaison-tool] Fwd: Weekly Report, Proje… Patrik Fältström
- Re: [yaco-liaison-tool] Fwd: Weekly Report, Proje… Emilio A. Sánchez López
- [yaco-liaison-tool] Acceptance? Henrik Levkowetz
- Re: [yaco-liaison-tool] Acceptance? Patrik Fältström
- Re: [yaco-liaison-tool] Acceptance? Henrik Levkowetz
- Re: [yaco-liaison-tool] Acceptance? Patrik Fältström
- Re: [yaco-liaison-tool] Acceptance? Alexa Morris
- Re: [yaco-liaison-tool] Acceptance? Stephanie McCammon
- Re: [yaco-liaison-tool] Acceptance? Emilio Sanchez
- Re: [yaco-liaison-tool] Acceptance? Emilio Sanchez
- Re: [yaco-liaison-tool] Acceptance? Alexa Morris
- Re: [yaco-liaison-tool] Acceptance? Henrik Levkowetz
- Re: [yaco-liaison-tool] Acceptance? Alexa Morris
- Re: [yaco-liaison-tool] Acceptance? Patrik Fältström
- Re: [yaco-liaison-tool] Acceptance? Henrik Levkowetz
- Re: [yaco-liaison-tool] Acceptance? Henrik Levkowetz