Re: [yaco-wgchair-tracker] Testdrive comments and concerns on the "Manage Workflow" tab
"Emilio A. Sánchez" <esanchez@yaco.es> Wed, 30 March 2011 19:18 UTC
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Subject: Re: [yaco-wgchair-tracker] Testdrive comments and concerns on the "Manage Workflow" tab
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Hi, All the changes required have been commited [1] and applied in the beta server. In summary: * Added state definitions * Freeze states applicable to *all* WGs. In this point I included the 'Call For Adoption By WG Issued' cause you need it to enter a draft in your WG workflow. * Re-order state list * Added a link to the state diagram Regards, [1] http://trac.tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb/ticket/644 El 30/03/11 16:17, Ed Juskevicius escribió: > Good stuff here too. > Thank You! > Regards, > Ed J. > ------------------- > > On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 10:11 AM, "Emilio A. Sánchez" <esanchez@yaco.es > <mailto:esanchez@yaco.es>> wrote: > > Hi, > > El 30/03/11 14:38, Ed Juskevicius escribió: > > Hello. I have several comments and suggestions about the > current Beta > code for the Datatracker Extensions for WG Chairs, after seeing the > demonstration of the tool during the WG Chairs lunch in Prague > today. > Comments / Suggestions on the "Manage Workflow" tab: > (for example at: > http://beta.wgchairs.yaco.es/wg/alto/management/workflows/ ) > > 1. It is a good idea to list all of the possible states (as > defined > > in RFC 6174) for documents related to IETF WGs. I like this. > 2. The above being said, not everyone will memorize the > definitions > > of each of the different states (as described in RFC6174) > * I suggest this page be modified to provide > definitions of > each of the WG document states, or easy access to > the state > definitions BEFORE allowing the Chairs to say they don't > want to use some of these states in their WGs. > > > Fine, I'll add the definitions from RFC6174 > > 3. Next point: Two of the states (viz. "WG Document" and > > "Submitted to IESG for Publication") appear on the list of > possible states (which is good), however WG Chairs should > not be > allowed to decide these two states will not be used in > their WGs. > > > That makes sense. > > * Section 7 of RFC6175 specifies that the Datatracker will > > automatically move I-Ds into the "WG Document" state and > then later into the "Submitted to the IESG for > Publication" > state when certain things happen. > * Therefore, the above two states are supposed to be > used to > describe the state of some I-Ds in ALL working groups, > whether the Chairs put documents (manually) into those > states or not. They are to be automatic state > transitions. > * > * I suggest you hard code a check mark in the "Check > Box" that > is current to the left of both of these two states, > and then > do not let anyone remove those two check marks. > People who > attempt to remove these check marks should be presented > with a message to explain why these two states are > applicable to *all* WGs. > > > I think that probably it's better if we gray out these states and > disable their checkbox so they can not be unchecked. And probably > add a message explaining why they can not be throw out at the top of > the page. > > 4. Next point: The list of possible states is organized > > alphabetically. RFC6174 contains a state diagram showing > typical > or 'usual" state transitions for I-Ds through all of the > states, > for WGs that decied to use all of the states. > * I suggest the states be re-ordered to more closely > resemble > how an I-D might traverse the state diagram, from > top to bottom. > * I suggest the list be re-ordered to read as follows: > o Call For Adoption by WG Issued > o Adopted by A WG > o Adopted for WG Info Only > o WG Document > o Parked WG Document > o Dead WG Document > o In WG Last Call > o Waiting for WG Chair Go-Ahead > o WG Consensus: Waiting for Writeup > o Sent to IESG for Publication > > > Fine, I'll change the order of the states. > > * If possible, it would be good to include a pointer > to the > > state diagram in Section 4.1 of RFC6174 > > > Of course, without problem. > > > Regards, > Ed J. > > > Best, > _______________________________________________ > yaco-wgchair-tracker mailing list > yaco-wgchair-tracker@ietf.org <mailto:yaco-wgchair-tracker@ietf.org> > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/yaco-wgchair-tracker > >
- [yaco-wgchair-tracker] Testdrive comments and con… Ed Juskevicius
- Re: [yaco-wgchair-tracker] Testdrive comments and… Emilio A. Sánchez
- Re: [yaco-wgchair-tracker] Testdrive comments and… Ed Juskevicius
- Re: [yaco-wgchair-tracker] Testdrive comments and… Emilio A. Sánchez