Re: [yam] preliminary -- draft-ietf-yam-rfc1652bis-pre-evaluation
John C Klensin <john-ietf@jck.com> Thu, 13 August 2009 23:37 UTC
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Subject: Re: [yam] preliminary -- draft-ietf-yam-rfc1652bis-pre-evaluation
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--On Thursday, August 13, 2009 18:12 -0400 Tony Hansen <tony@att.com> wrote: > Thanks Dave. > > Template comments: >... > Link to Draft Standard interoperability report, > [[ No report appears to be on file with the IETF. /d ]] > > I'm not sure what to do here. This may be a tripping point for > the IESG, and we may need to provide an interop report for any > RFCs that are missing one. I'd personally be inclined to take a hard line on this. There is no requirement for an interoperability report for Draft -> Full. None. There is also no requirement, or even mechanism, for a review of the prior interoperability report. If some IESG approved the document for Draft Standard, they made a definitive decision that evidence of interoperability was sufficient. There is no procedure for a current IESG to second-guess that except by moving a Draft Standard document to Historic and historically (sic) wide deployment and use is a bar against doing that. It is not YAM's job to either find documentation that the IESG has misplaced or to generate documentation that may not have existed in a time of more relaxed and informal procedures, especially for something that is not subject to review as part of YAM's work. > Questions to the WG: Do we put in some sort of simple > statement like what Dave has in brackets, assume that one > isn't needed, and see if the IESG barfs? Or do we offer up > front to provide an interop report in cases where one is > missing? We could state that one will be provided along with > the revised draft. We remove the entire item from the template and point anyone who asks to what 2026 actually says. Just my { hard-line, sorehead } opinion. john
- [yam] preliminary -- draft-ietf-yam-rfc1652bis-pr… Dave CROCKER
- Re: [yam] preliminary -- draft-ietf-yam-rfc1652bi… Tony Hansen
- Re: [yam] preliminary -- draft-ietf-yam-rfc1652bi… John C Klensin
- Re: [yam] preliminary -- draft-ietf-yam-rfc1652bi… SM
- Re: [yam] preliminary -- draft-ietf-yam-rfc1652bi… Dave CROCKER
- Re: [yam] preliminary -- draft-ietf-yam-rfc1652bi… Dave CROCKER
- Re: [yam] preliminary -- draft-ietf-yam-rfc1652bi… Tony Hansen
- Re: [yam] preliminary -- draft-ietf-yam-rfc1652bi… Dave CROCKER
- Re: [yam] preliminary -- draft-ietf-yam-rfc1652bi… SM
- Re: [yam] preliminary -- draft-ietf-yam-rfc1652bi… Dave CROCKER
- Re: [yam] preliminary -- draft-ietf-yam-rfc1652bi… Tony Hansen
- Re: [yam] preliminary -- draft-ietf-yam-rfc1652bi… SM
- Re: [yam] preliminary -- draft-ietf-yam-rfc1652bi… Dave CROCKER
- Re: [yam] preliminary -- draft-ietf-yam-rfc1652bi… Tony Hansen
- Re: [yam] preliminary -- draft-ietf-yam-rfc1652bi… Ned Freed
- Re: [yam] preliminary -- draft-ietf-yam-rfc1652bi… Alexey Melnikov
- Re: [yam] preliminary -- draft-ietf-yam-rfc1652bi… Tony Hansen
- Re: [yam] preliminary -- draft-ietf-yam-rfc1652bi… Alexey Melnikov