Re: [yam] draft-daboo-srv-email: POP3S/IMAPS?
Lars Eggert <lars.eggert@nokia.com> Wed, 20 January 2010 09:38 UTC
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Subject: Re: [yam] draft-daboo-srv-email: POP3S/IMAPS?
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Hi, thanks for the summary. On 2010-1-20, at 11:28, Arnt Gulbrandsen wrote: > Lars Eggert writes: >> I'm not on the yam list and this is the first message in this thread >> that I was CC'ed on. It seems like you are suggesting changes to >> draft-ietf-tsvwg-iana-ports, but due to the lack of context I'm at a >> loss as to what they are... > > Tthe thead in a nutshell: The iana-ports document says "one port for > each purpose" etc. yes - as a guideline for *new* assignments. No existing assignment is modified by this document. (Maybe we need to explicitly say this if we aren't already.) > IMAP, POP3 and perhaps SMTP, however, exist in two. > 993 ("imaps") and 143 ("imap") for IMAP. Everyone on the list dislikes > port 993. The question is whether port 993 should survive in the IANA > registry. It should and it will. > My suggestion for the iana-ports document is to permit more than one > port in those cases where that's currently deployed, and apply the > one-port-per-purpose rule only to new allocations. Exactly. The intent is not to revisit past assignments and check whether they comply with the new rules. > My rationale for that is that the extra ports/service names aren't > really free. You can't use port 993 or service name imaps for anything > else, and IMO that's reason enough to keep it in the registry. Exactly. Lars > The same argument applies to pop3s/995, and perhaps to smtps/465 (smtps > is falling out of use). > > Arnt
- [yam] draft-daboo-srv-email: POP3S/IMAPS? Sabahattin Gucukoglu
- Re: [yam] [Imap-protocol] draft-daboo-srv-email: … Arnt Gulbrandsen
- Re: [yam] draft-daboo-srv-email: POP3S/IMAPS? Ned Freed
- Re: [yam] [Imap-protocol] draft-daboo-srv-email: … Lyndon Nerenberg
- Re: [yam] draft-daboo-srv-email: POP3S/IMAPS? Sabahattin Gucukoglu
- Re: [yam] draft-daboo-srv-email: POP3S/IMAPS? Ned Freed
- Re: [yam] draft-daboo-srv-email: POP3S/IMAPS? Julien ÉLIE
- Re: [yam] [Imap-protocol] draft-daboo-srv-email: … Arnt Gulbrandsen
- Re: [yam] draft-daboo-srv-email: POP3S/IMAPS? Arnt Gulbrandsen
- Re: [yam] draft-daboo-srv-email: POP3S/IMAPS? Tony Finch
- Re: [yam] [Imap-protocol] Re: draft-daboo-srv-ema… Arnt Gulbrandsen
- Re: [yam] [Imap-protocol] Re: draft-daboo-srv-ema… Tony Finch
- Re: [yam] [Imap-protocol] Re: draft-daboo-srv-ema… Arnt Gulbrandsen
- Re: [yam] [Imap-protocol] Re: draft-daboo-srv-ema… Timo Sirainen
- Re: [yam] [Imap-protocol] Re: draft-daboo-srv-ema… Tony Finch
- Re: [yam] draft-daboo-srv-email: POP3S/IMAPS? Ned Freed
- Re: [yam] draft-daboo-srv-email: POP3S/IMAPS? Tony Finch
- Re: [yam] draft-daboo-srv-email: POP3S/IMAPS? Arnt Gulbrandsen
- Re: [yam] [Imap-protocol] Re: draft-daboo-srv-ema… Ned Freed
- Re: [yam] draft-daboo-srv-email: POP3S/IMAPS? Ned Freed
- Re: [yam] draft-daboo-srv-email: POP3S/IMAPS? Tony Finch
- Re: [yam] draft-daboo-srv-email: POP3S/IMAPS? Alfred Hönes
- Re: [yam] draft-daboo-srv-email: POP3S/IMAPS? Alexey Melnikov
- Re: [yam] draft-daboo-srv-email: POP3S/IMAPS? Ned Freed
- Re: [yam] draft-daboo-srv-email: POP3S/IMAPS? Ned Freed
- Re: [yam] draft-daboo-srv-email: POP3S/IMAPS? Arnt Gulbrandsen
- Re: [yam] draft-daboo-srv-email: POP3S/IMAPS? Lars Eggert
- Re: [yam] draft-daboo-srv-email: POP3S/IMAPS? Arnt Gulbrandsen
- Re: [yam] draft-daboo-srv-email: POP3S/IMAPS? Magnus Westerlund
- Re: [yam] draft-daboo-srv-email: POP3S/IMAPS? Lars Eggert
- Re: [yam] draft-daboo-srv-email: POP3S/IMAPS? Arnt Gulbrandsen
- Re: [yam] draft-daboo-srv-email: POP3S/IMAPS? Sabahattin Gucukoglu
- Re: [yam] draft-daboo-srv-email: POP3S/IMAPS? Joe Touch
- Re: [yam] draft-daboo-srv-email: POP3S/IMAPS? Joe Touch
- Re: [yam] draft-daboo-srv-email: POP3S/IMAPS? Lars Eggert