[yam] Notes from the phone talk between IESG and YAM WG participants
Alexey Melnikov <alexey.melnikov@isode.com> Mon, 21 December 2009 19:19 UTC
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Subject: [yam] Notes from the phone talk between IESG and YAM WG participants
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Based on Chris' Notes and my edits. If people who were present on the call think that I've misrepresented something, please let me know. ============================== * WG is serious about moving things to full standard. WG chairs committed to enforcing charter and avoid things off charter, such as process related changes * Purpose of pre-reviews is to scope work before doing it (feasibility test) and to avoid "late surprises" to the extent feasible. WG wants both likely DISCUSS issues and nice-to-have change suggestions from IESG to evaluate early. * WG understands that new IESG members, inadequate resolution of a pre-review DISCUSS issue or new IETF last call issues may result in IESG DISCUSS positions, but wants new IESG members to justify non-IETF-last-call DISCUSS issues in context of IESG pre-review feedback. A suggestion to remind ADs about pre-reviews is to include a pointer to original pre-review response from IESG in the shepherding write-up. * IESG wants pre-reviews done as management items. IESG will send email with results of pre-review to WG. IESG would welcome any comments on content of such email messages and will revise their format based on WG feedback. * An intent to move something to Full Standard later during YAM WG lifecycle is not by itself sufficient to justify a downref. So downrefs need to be justified independently, as highly unlikely to incompatibly change a Full Standard, and called out explicitly during IETF Last Call. * It is OK to 1). explicitly call out downrefs in IETF Last Call, 2). move documents referencing each other as a set, or 3). move documents with normative references that sit in RFC editor queue waiting for dependencies. The WG should choose the most appropriate mechanism and can choose different mechanisms for different documents. * IESG would be happy to do other phone calls between IESG and YAM WG in the future.
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