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Re: [yang-doctors] YD review and yang-push and friends

Kent Watsen <kwatsen@juniper.net> Thu, 08 March 2018 17:09 UTC

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From: Kent Watsen <kwatsen@juniper.net>
To: Mehmet Ersue <mersue@gmail.com>, 'Martin Bjorklund' <mbj@tail-f.com>
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> I did not start review for netconf-event-notifications-08.
>
> Netconf co-chairs: Please clarify whether a review is required.


What's in a YANG Doctor review?  Is it just syntax, or semantics too?
If it includes semantics, then does that then entail needing to read the
draft text as well, to determine if the YANG module expresses the correct
semantics or find that the draft text is wrong?  Would it also extend to
reviewing the examples in the draft, to further ensure that the semantics
are understood correctly or, possibly, that there is an error in the
example?

Yes, I am aware that netconf-event-notifications does not define a YANG
module, but it does have examples that for the YANG modules in the 
yang-push and subscriber-notifications drafts.  In that sense, I'm 
wondering if they need to be reviewed, or do we expect the YD reviewers
of those other two drafts to look at this draft already?  

FWIW, I not talking about what might be found via validation.  I've
already asked the authors to post a script that validates the 14 
examples in this draft...


K.

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