Re: [yang-doctors] 6991bis

"Reshad Rahman (rrahman)" <rrahman@cisco.com> Thu, 22 March 2018 11:04 UTC

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From: "Reshad Rahman (rrahman)" <rrahman@cisco.com>
To: Juergen Schoenwaelder <j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de>
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Date is the only definition I am aware of, I was expecting/hoping the more experienced YDs would have more.

Regards,
Reshad.


On 2018-03-22, 11:01 AM, "Juergen Schoenwaelder" <j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de> wrote:

    On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 10:28:02AM +0000, Reshad Rahman (rrahman) wrote:
    > 
    > On Tuesday we discussed adding a typedef for date to avoid modules having to define their own. Is it worth doing a bis document just for this? Are there more common YANG types which need to be added?
    >
    
    What we can do is to start a 6991bis I-D to collect new definitions
    but pushing such a bis I-D through the whole process just for adding
    'date' is likely too costly.
    
    The last time we updated the common typedefs, the comments received
    during IESG processing were mostly concerning definitions we did not
    add or change, and this might happen again. Some of that was useful
    since terminology is often becoming better defined but sometimes this
    also leads to interesting alignment and compability issues. While
    there are errata pointing to 'internal' (yang related) terminology
    issues, it may be necessary to also carefully check alignment with
    other terminology documents that are coming along, such as
    draft-ietf-dnsop-terminology-bis-09.
    
    Anyway, which other definitions have we seen commonly used that could
    benefit from moving into 6991bis (and which are not covered by say
    routing types)?
    
    /js
    
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